Gold Sellers

[Kaze3434]

there are many ways dev's can stop this they just choose not to they say they delete accounts and such and ban accounts. but the fact that i feel like they are pulling weekly numbers out their butt ... sounds like they really dont care. they need a separate report function for gil sellers and needs to be addressed asap. accounts deleted and ip bans.

this part in particular is a bad idea/wont work well because its not hard to change on ip.

[Black91CRX]

Make you wonder just how many people must be buying gil.

[Faelandaea]

It is indeed absolutely amazing how many "friends" I have in Ul'Dah that keep sending me requests. Has anyone else noticed this? Maybe it's just a Phoenix server thing, but EVERY friend invite and spam I get from these bots are level 1 in Ul'Dah. LOL. It makes me wonder what's so special about Ul'Dah compared to New Gridania and Limsa.

[EmberRaine]

It's not just Phoenix. I'm on Midgardsormr, and the bulk of my RMT friend requests are in Ul'dah. I think I had one in Limsa too, but they must have been lost. =)

[DylfinSecond]

Hey, WTF with gold sellers? They annoyed me on version 1.2, on start 2.0 and now when I start to play again! Is it really hard to add "Report Gold Seller" to popup menu in chat? And block account of this f...n gold seller? I almost automatically block anyone who write me something in private already.

[Faelandaea]

Hey, WTF with gold sellers? They annoyed me on version 1.2, on start 2.0 and now when I start to play again! Is it really hard to add "Report Gold Seller" to popup menu in chat? And block account of this f...n gold seller? I almost automatically block anyone who write me something in private already.

That's as I stated a few pages back - SE actually promotes Gil selling due to how they set up this system. In order to decline a friend invite you have to either write a macro (yes, that's easy but why use hotbar space with a macro to "make" a feature for us that should be in by game command?) or go through a multi-stage process. You can NOT blacklist someone who has a pending friend invite. And now what I am encountering is a method that seems to get around even that - the bot was actually insta-spamming me with the friend invites even with a macro to decline them, and before the blacklist option could even register, I had a friend invite from the bot again. i had absolutely no choice but to wait till the damned thing logged off before I could blacklist it.

In every other MMO I play, regardless of activity, you could simply right click and blacklist someone in the chat. If there was a friend invite, it automatically made that go away. But SE has designed the system in FFXIV to be as Gil-Seller friendly as possible to the point that it makes me wonder:

• Are their "stats" they post on banning of RMT actually authentic?
• Is SE somehow getting kickbacks from these Gil sites for financial gain?

It is VERY VERY VERY easy to code in the ability to right-click and blacklist someone regardless of a friend invite. The fact that Square Enix has BLOCKED this feature (this actually takes more code than the solution I describe) says a lot in my eyes.

[DylfinSecond]

SE actually promotes Gil selling due to how they set up this system.

So, actually we(community) should create a program, which will take control under game process, analyze client-server network communication and will cut goldsellers messages. This isn't a easy task.

[Jentaru]

an easy way would be for SE to hire someone to just take reports that are for gil sellers and look at chat logs of players using that account and ban them if they spam anything gil selling. i for one would not mind taking up that task. doing it daily. if SE chooses to hire such a person for that endeavor. just saying and throwing that out there.

[KisaiTenshi]

an easy way would be for SE to hire someone to just take reports that are for gil sellers and look at chat logs of players using that account and ban them if they spam anything gil selling. i for one would not mind taking up that task. doing it daily. if SE chooses to hire such a person for that endeavor. just saying and throwing that out there.

RMT trash has been around since MMORPG's began. Nobody has come up with a brilliant-and-practical solution yet, otherwise the problem would have been solved over a decade ago.

The best solutions involve security tokens that must be plugged into the device during play, not just one-time keys but something that literately prevents more than one account from being used per machine (eg an actual crypto-processor.) That puts a dent in the cheapest mechanism RMT uses to ruin games. But it's impractical because then you have to replace them when they are lost/damaged. No PC comes with finger print scanners or NFC/chip-card readers either. This ruins Chinese RMT's ability to throw away accounts since they would need throw-away addresses from which to have them forwarded.

The worst solutions all involve "just hire someone to sit there and do it" because you're putting one person up against thousands of machines (likely all in the same building) using scripts to automate everything from hacking into the account, to spamming, to delivering the stolen goods. SE can run it's own scripts, but that ensures false positives.

PS - The gold sellers are all more than likely the same company.

[DylfinSecond]

Want a easy solution? Button "Report gold seller", which will report account and last text message. If some account acquired multiple reports in short amount of time and reported text messages is the same - ban this account.