Gold Sellers

[moudoka]

I've blacklisted another 15 today. I like the idea of blacklisting entire accounts, not just a single toon. If you figure, that would cut down on this bot mess. I still say IN GAME GMS is a must. They can just lounge around, chat with players, get gil-spammed like the rest of us, but they could actually do something about it. They could chill in U'ldah, and watch the BLM bots gather at the Aetheryte. Or chill in the burning wall, and watch the BLM bots teleport to quest spots, teleport instantly back to turn-ins. I Know! They could watch the BLM hackbots go invisible and attack quest targets!

Anything other than utterly ignoring us, and letting the hackers/botters run rampant, which is exactly what's going on. Oh, you banned 300 accounts. What about the other 3500 that fill the gaps? Why not take down the websites, obviously infringing on your IP? They are, after all, stealing money from SE, by using SE's program, their property.

Imagine if I went to McDonald's, threw up a grill of my own, and sold burgers in their store? You think they'd let me slide with that?
It's what SE is doing with these hacksites.

[Zedd702]

Need Options to Blacklist ACCOUNTS and not just a character. This is one major step in the right direction towards a plethora of things they should do to fix this...

[Twillin]

I have no idea whats changed in the last few months but my blacklist is literally so full i have to take out someone and put someone in at least 20 times a day. I know there is no magic wand but please look at a few better ways to a)report people (its too hard to go through so many menu's to report quickly) b) an infinite blacklist. I usualy blacklist and ignore but last few weeks have been the worst ever.

[Faelandaea]

The real problem is that although SE constantly posts in "Information" about "actions taken against RMT", their coding almost seems to not deter, but rather PROMOTE this kind of harassment.

Here is the biggest issue:

1. Gold spammer spams me BUT also adds me to friends list. I right click their name in chat, only to be smacked with "You cannot add this person to blacklist because a current friends request is pending"
2. I look to the right of my window and see the friend request pending button. I click it and click "No" to adding this person to my friends list, then repeat the aforementioned right click and blacklist, only to get, yet again, "You cannot add this person to blacklist because a current friends request is pending"
3. Huh? i clicked 'No", so I manually go to menu, social, and friends list and sure enough their invite is still there. Now I have to Right Click and forcebly decline the friend request, which is followed by another dialogue of "Are you sure?" Really? YES I am sure!
4. Now that I have FINALLY gotten this idiot's friend request declined, NOW I can go about adding them to my blacklist.

Whichever dev on the team thought it would be hilarious to implement a "feature" that blocks blacklisting because of a random friend invite really needs to rethink this through. It's not funny, because by adding all that code to make this possible, you seemingly have PROMOTED Gill selling in FFXIV, not deterred it.

Also, I agree with the comments about level requirements for /shout. At a minimum make it level 20. There is no content, hunts, etc. which anyone needs tobe shouting for below that level anyway, and if you have gameplay questions you can ask your friends, FC or Google. It only takes like a day or so to get to 20 anyway when starting a new class.

[Zebyxus]

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Macro for you;

/friendlist deny <r>
/blist add <r>

You will get an error if there's no friend request, but it automatically denies the request and the only prompt is that "Do you want to add [insert name here] to your blacklist?"

[Midori_Dragon]

I turned off tells. There is the downside that I don't get ones I might want, but it came down to turn them off or quit playing. I adjusted..and I've noticed a lot of people running around with the 'busy' status..which...stops tells. If tells are the main gill seller medium one simple option would solve a very large amount of the problem. A simple option that says "Accept tells from accepted friends only", which would then only allow a tell to you if the person is on your friend list and is there because you have accepted them as a friend, not the pending spammer friend request.

Would it solve all spam no, but for those of us no longer using the broken tell system, we could at least get some from the people we wouldn't mind getting one from.

[Zedd702]

I turned off tells. There is the downside that I don't get ones I might want, but it came down to turn them off or quit playing. I adjusted..and I've noticed a lot of people running around with the 'busy' status..which...stops tells. If tells are the main gill seller medium one simple option would solve a very large amount of the problem. A simple option that says "Accept tells from accepted friends only", which would then only allow a tell to you if the person is on your friend list and is there because you have accepted them as a friend, not the pending spammer friend request.

Would it solve all spam no, but for those of us no longer using the broken tell system, we could at least get some from the people we wouldn't mind getting one from.

While I agree with this there is still one problem. The friend invite bots that spam your mail once you accept their request (by accident) due to how complicated they made the system. You have to double confirm to decline a friend request instead of selecting yes or no and that be it. They need to change this as well. The other day I got a friend request. As I declined it, I went into the chatbox to blacklist and as I got the option to do so, he hit me with another friend request and I ended up accepting it by accident and immediately got three emails in my moogle messages. I'd also like to add to have a delete option without opening my moogle mail as well, since I could only delete it after opening the message itself.

I almost feel like SE did this intentionally, especially because they are not addressing the issue.

[Changillo]

These great solutions trend back almost 2 years and nothing. I've escalated the talk online with a GM and the GM's manager. People, make some noise when you can. It's sad how people respond in support for RMT, and bash those that try to do something. People will be people though.

1) Make /tell, /yell, or any of the RMT voicing actions should be a simple mission or provided at Level 2, those that sign on as free trial with friends should be able to already have direct contact with friends.
2) Easier function that allows us to click on the RMT message, rapidly blacklist and immediately report to an in-game GM who can take immediate action, search info on situation.
3) Increase size of blacklist
4) Ban names that have been commonly used for RMT

I know, others have posted this, just re-surfacing them

[Changillo]

Temporary solutions:

1) Switch off /tell on your main chat, as well as the sound
2) Make tab purely for /tell
3) Use this tab to collect RMT and submit it

This at least keeps it off your General chat, and turns off the sound so it won't bug as much. I don't think its the right solution to use, but its something if someone is looking for a current decent solution.

[RichardButte]

SE needs to take a page from WoW's book and give us options to right click and report a name for spamming immediately, also please add botting to that list.

I've seen so many friggin' grinding bots in this game that it's depressing.

I'll put up with goldseller spam, but competing with a goddamn computer program (that can insta-target even before the mob has loaded in) for grinding mobs that I NEED to grind to craft my wares makes me want to quit the game...

Just reported a bot for the 2nd time in a week that's grinding hyppogrifs in Mor Dhona... :\