Gold Sellers

[Zedd702]

True facts.

If they restricted /t, /shout, /yell to a level like say 20 (yes it sounds harsh, but it would reduce the spam immensely and give SE time to investigate and ban appropriately). It would make spammers work a little harder to send these tells/messages instead of filling up my blacklist list with a lvl 1 who sent me a gold spam message then recving the exact same format from a new level one just minutes after I black listed the first. City of heroes had this very same restriction in place. It was a lvl 10 requirement before a player could send tells/shouts/etc and even higher level for trial accounts, because this is where the flood gates pour in with Gil sellers, they don't have to pay to advertise so they create many trial accounts and spam away.

Recap:

SE should:

1. Place restrictions on trial accounts: ie friend requests, in-game email etc
2. Auto Spam blocker. Time a player out for spam after 2 back to back messages (more so for shouts/yells)
3. Level requirement to send tells to players and even higher lvl req on trial (non-paid) accounts.

Those three things would slow gil selling and spam tremendously...

[Zedd702]

There are plenty of good suggestions. But I am telling you if they would add the previous things I suggested and one more important item I failed to mention. We'd see a helluva alot less spam.

If they restricted /t, /shout, /yell to a level like say 20 (yes it sounds harsh, but it would reduce the spam immensely and give SE time to investigate and ban appropriately). It would make spammers work a little harder to send these tells/messages instead of filling up my blacklist list with a lvl 1 who sent me a gold spam message then recving the exact same format from a new level one just minutes after I black listed the first. City of heroes had this very same restriction in place. It was a lvl 10 requirement before a player could send tells/shouts/etc and even higher level for trial accounts, because this is where the flood gates pour in with Gil sellers, they don't have to pay to advertise so they create many trial accounts and spam away.

Recap:

SE should:

1. Place restrictions on trial accounts: ie friend requests, in-game email etc
2. Auto Spam blocker. Time a player out for spam after 2 back to back messages (more so for shouts/yells)
3. Level requirement to send tells to players and even higher lvl req on trial (non-paid) accounts.

Those three things would slow gil selling and spam tremendously...

The MAIN thing I would LOVE to see is the option to BLACKLIST the ACCOUNT, not just the name of said hjkahsk or adfsfsfsf... If you could block the account rather than a small fraction or temporary character 1-1000, that will force them to be a lot more creative like having to create a whole new account to spam from because not only have you blocked the first character, you blocked future messages that can be potentially made from the same account in the next 2-3 minutes.

[moudoka]

I refuse to buy from sellers. You can see their botted wares on the marketboards. Just look under the shards and crystals. How exactly does one manage to put up 25,000 shards every few days? Mass-selling of shards is what nets them big gil, at least on my server. It's not difficult to see the bots out in Gridania and elsewhere. We had mass reports of botters in Western Thanlan, no GMs ever showed up, none of the characters were banned for botting. A day or two later, they went from level 1 to 50 (always Black Mage, something about how the class is allows them to be botted en-masse.) I'll probably end up banned from the forums yet again for posting about SE's lack of effort to stop botters, cheaters, and shut down the sites that sell this stuff.

[Midori_Dragon]

But you can get married....

Report as spam, simple option that only requires minimal code to implement in the front end. On the back end each one can be reviewed, and once a canned spam message is identified, any other message that matches that spam 90% of the way (keep them from just adding a couple random characters to the end) would result in an instant suspension of the account. Can they prevent every method? Probably not, but in the past year what have they done?

NOTHING!!!!

[alphamax112]

En-masse have their own way to handle bots. As far as I know, one of my friend was a very active gold seller in every game he played.
But in En-masse TERA, after selling some massive golds, he got banned. He tried everything he has, but he still can't get into the game anymore. His attempts included :
1. Register new account
2. Fresh Re-download the game
3. Windows Re-install
4. IP Change
5. ISP Provider Change
6. Proxy
7. MAC Address Change

8. PC Change

Only the 8th option can get him into the game. But after selling a few more golds, he got banned again. He won't buy a new PC again even if the gold selling profit exceed the price

[Melondra]

Start handing out Arrest Warrents for seeling SE software codeing and watch how fast the gill selling stops

[moudoka]

Ok, this is getting WAY out of hand. I logged in 01/08/2015 at 7:30 AM EST. By 9:01 AM EST, I had blacklisted 11 bots. ELEVEN BOTS.

This is idiotic at it's core, and there is obviously zero effort on SE's behalf to stop this. I didn't get this much gil spam on Diablo II, and that place was a e-site paradise. You report them, and nothing happens. I've reported the exact same miner botter for over a week straight, and it's STILL THERE. Exact same location, everything. Just look at the marketboards under the crystals to find the botters. Same retainer selling 10,000 wind shards, 10,000 ice shards, etc. Do they even have GMs that bother looking into any of this?

As of 9:27 AM EST, I am up to 18 spambots blacklisted. Can't seem to find the part of the ToS where it says my subscription will be spammed to no end by gil-sellers so I miss our on FC chat, friend chat, etc.

[Zebyxus]

Start handing out Arrest Warrents for seeling SE software codeing and watch how fast the gill selling stops

I would like to know just what law they could do that under.

Anywho, the seller spam is getting worse, and the sellers are getting smarter, they create, spam then logout within a matter of three or so minutes, so if you're AFK/AFC, you're returning to a chat log full of spam you can't blacklist the senders of because they've logged out. This needs a complete system to help us combat, not just some administrative 'tips' which we all could say are not working in the slightest.

[Peachy]

Makes you wonder. They dont do this for fun, so they must have a lot of customers in FFXIV. So maybe SE doesnt want to enforce harshly because they would end up banning a massive amount of players. EQ2 sold their own gold at one point and would temp ban players for buying from off sites, along with what others have said about TERA, I find it really hard to believe this is simply SE not acting.

They can easily enforce something and it would prevent a lot of other would be gil buyers. Id like to see a small tag in a persons search info if they have bought gil and been punished for it.

[Giralus]

Options to :
Block tells or friend invites from lvl 1-9,10-19,20-29,30-39,40-50,50.

Block tells from anyone not on friends list, in free company, or link shells.

Block friend invites from anyone not in free company or linkshells.

Have level restricted chat and shout channels same as above . 1-9,10-19,20-29,30-39,40-49,50

Have a reposted time for shout of 5 minutes. Shout isn't for constant communication. It's to notify all people in zone of something.

One click report button that also adds the person to your blacklist .

Blacklist size increased to 5000 people