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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieLee View Post
    I assume this is a laptop with optimus....

    The game will use The Intel HD 4000 for 2d and your Nvidia gpu for 3d (unless you tell it not to).

    As far as Turing off the HD4000 and just using the nvidia gpu... The nvidia gpu doesn't have any display port The Nvidia card passes the video back and forth between it and the Intel HD 4000 with does the display composition and actual output.
    The intel hd4000 and nvidia gpu are totaly seperated and were fabricated as seperate units .. the fact that they were eventually put into the same laptop is just because they wouldnt give me a discount if i would take the laptop without the hd4000 ).. i can shut down one of them and play with the other at other games fine.. its only final fantasy that does not allow me to play with the intel hd4000 shut down (custom-made laptop)..
    and the optimus thing.. i certainly would neverthe laptop a chance to switch to the intel hd4000 :P nah, ive set everything in such a way that it really should NOT use the intel hd4000 in any case or for anything.
    The fact that i cant run final fantasy with only my gtx680m is weird and should not happen.
    I will just play like this till the directx11 version and see wether or not that will help .. or now it is my only guess to the problem, already spent days looking and testing for a problem but couldnt find it so this guess is about my last chance :P (done indie game design school, media design course and atm doing ICT server-management ... but im faaaar from all-knowing and certainly dont know anything regarding the gamecoding of final fantasy :P)

    Nonetheless thank you for your reply, happy to see people are actually willing to try and help''also.. Miqo'te rule!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timeraider View Post
    The intel hd4000 and nvidia gpu are totaly seperated and were fabricated as seperate units .. the fact that they were eventually put into the same laptop is just because they wouldnt give me a discount if i would take the laptop without the hd4000 ).. i can shut down one of them and play with the other at other games fine.. its only final fantasy that does not allow me to play with the intel hd4000 shut down (custom-made laptop)..
    and the optimus thing.. i certainly would neverthe laptop a chance to switch to the intel hd4000 :P nah, ive set everything in such a way that it really should NOT use the intel hd4000 in any case or for anything.
    The fact that i cant run final fantasy with only my gtx680m is weird and should not happen.
    I will just play like this till the directx11 version and see wether or not that will help .. or now it is my only guess to the problem, already spent days looking and testing for a problem but couldnt find it so this guess is about my last chance :P (done indie game design school, media design course and atm doing ICT server-management ... but im faaaar from all-knowing and certainly dont know anything regarding the gamecoding of final fantasy :P)

    Nonetheless thank you for your reply, happy to see people are actually willing to try and help''also.. Miqo'te rule!
    yes i know there diffrent outputs.. Actually the HD4000 is built into your laptops processer and not the mainboard.. THe nvidia card is just A MXM addon card. The way optimus works tho is it uses the Nvidia GPU for 3d and uses the intel card for everything else.... Even if you turn off the Intel card its still using it for display Hence why the The nvidia display manager does not have anything for resolution changing .... Unless your laptops bios has an ability to turn off the intel chipset and just use the nvidia card (if it does) then the nvidia card has its own display port.

    The reason for the fatal direct x error is not because it uses dx from the intel card its erroring because Direct X for the nvidia gpu cannot change resolutions for the display manager.




    Not saying you cant play that way but thats why your getting weird things happening.
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    Last edited by JamieLee; 09-06-2013 at 01:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieLee View Post
    yes i know there diffrent outputs.. Actually the HD4000 is built into your laptops processer and not the mainboard.. THe nvidia card is just A MXM addon card. The way optimus works tho is it uses the Nvidia GPU for 3d and uses the intel card for everything else.... Even if you turn off the Intel card its still using it for display Hence why the The nvidia display manager does not have anything for resolution changing .... Unless your laptops bios has an ability to turn off the intel chipset and just use the nvidia card (if it does) then the nvidia card has its own display port.

    The reason for the fatal direct x error is not because it uses dx from the intel card its erroring because Direct X for the nvidia gpu cannot change resolutions for the display manager.


    Not saying you cant play that way but thats why your getting weird things happening.
    ah, you meant it like that.. yeah, that seems to be correct (though at certain games its still possible to play with only the gtx680m)

    And yeah.. though the error might not be fully related to it, its probably still the directx ... atm im fully basing it on a friend who had exactly the same problems with WoW but fixed them by simply turning on the dx11 version/setting... its not much to base it on, but at least its something
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    Now heres the thing ill do another screen shot of it even tho it says its using the intel hd 4000 chip check the nvidia icon on the top bar it will say its using the nvidia gpu... Which it says intel hd 4000 because thats what the display output is but the hd 4000 is not rendering the image the nvidia gpu is..




    Its 100 percent normal becuase FFXIV does not have optimus detection... The game thinks HD 4000 but the nvidia card is actually picking up the graphics...

    Ignore the 16 fps lol as the client throttles your fps when not focus...
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    Last edited by JamieLee; 09-06-2013 at 10:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieLee View Post
    Now heres the thing ill do another screen shot of it even tho it says its using the intel hd 4000 chip check the nvidia icon on the top bar it will say its using the nvidia gpu... Which it says intel hd 4000 because thats what the display output is but the hd 4000 is not rendering the image the nvidia gpu is..

    Its 100 percent normal becuase FFXIV does not have optimus detection... The game thinks HD 4000 but the nvidia card is actually picking up the graphics...

    Ignore the 16 fps lol as the client throttles your fps when not focus...

    ok... now mine .. time to blow your mind XD you asked for it

    http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/10...63F00F0D698D0/


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