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    ShinrinCole's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by The-Alchemist View Post
    I am running the latest beta drvier..
    There's your problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    That's a good one. What about the recent 320.18 drivers causing dead cards and BSODs?
    And I've been having my share of crashes on my nVidia GPU as well. Especially alt-tab, which is ridiculous, considering that was supposed to be fixed. Back to borderless windowed...

    It's correct that factory OC is not as stable as the manufacturers promise - at least not over time. My GPU was running fine since I bought it but recently started crashing randomly. Clocking the VRAM down a few MHz solves the issue, so I guess it can't take the clocks anymore.
    well seeing as you're using a 260GTX OC, it is possible for you to have problems with older drivers, Not sure if the latest drivers work for the 200 series.
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    Last edited by ShinrinCole; 09-05-2013 at 05:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinrinCole View Post
    well seeing as you're using a 260GTX OC, it is possible for you to have problems with older drivers, Not sure if the latest drivers work for the 200 series.
    I actually had to downgrade because newest drivers are a crashfest. Using 306.97 atm and they're stable for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by C-croft View Post
    How's your heat? I am running above Superclocked settings on my card, granted Nvidia, but I was having full driver crashes until I dusted my rig and improved the air flow. Once heat went down, the 'hard crashes' ended.
    Heat's fine, top I ever get is 74°C
    Cooler is a twin frozr by MSI

    We're kinda derailing the thread with my GPU though, so I'd like to end it at that.
    My point was that the whole "AMD drivers are crap" applies to nVidia as well lately.
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    [ AMD Phenom II X4 970BE@4GHz | 12GB DDR3-RAM@CL7 | nVidia GeForce 260GTX OC | Crucial m4 SSD ]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    I actually had to downgrade because newest drivers are a crashfest. Using 306.97 atm and they're stable for me.

    Heat's fine, top I ever get is 74°C
    Cooler is a twin frozr by MSI

    We're kinda derailing the thread with my GPU though, so I'd like to end it at that.
    My point was that the whole "AMD drivers are crap" applies to nVidia as well lately.
    Soukyuu, have you tried nVidia's latest beta drivers by chance?

    I have a GTX 670 and was using the 320.18 and 320.49 WHQL drivers a while ago... turns out their performance in a few games that use heavy PhysX is absolutely atrocious. I switched back to 314.22 and saw no more crashes at all.

    I'm currently using Beta 326.41 and it's given me a really nice performance boost as well as stability. =)
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    Running an EVGA reference 680 2gb, i get sent to desktop randomly and have to alt-tab back into the game. A pain during boss fights. I have heard overlays have been known to cause some issues. Not sure what else it could be considering none of my other games do this. Waiting on new drivers from Nvidia that addresses FFXIV support.

    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    It's correct that factory OC is not as stable as the manufacturers promise - at least not over time. My GPU was running fine since I bought it but recently started crashing randomly. Clocking the VRAM down a few MHz solves the issue, so I guess it can't take the clocks anymore.
    How's your heat? I am running above Superclocked settings on my card, granted Nvidia, but I was having full driver crashes until I dusted my rig and improved the air flow. Once heat went down, the 'hard crashes' ended.
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    Last edited by C-croft; 09-05-2013 at 05:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The-Alchemist View Post
    Tired of the solution being told "AMD is trash"... I am not buying another 200-300 dollar card for one game.

    I have everything turned all the way down when I should be able to play max. Plus I am still getting random slow downs followed by a crash half the time.

    I am running the latest beta drvier.. The game crashes with non beta and beta drivers.
    Your power supply is probably crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arctic View Post
    Your power supply is probably crap.
    My power supply is not crap. It is a corsair module powersupply. None of the parts in my computer are crap.. However, the corsair psu is 5 years old and only 520 watts running a CPU overclocked. I did the math and I am just within tolerance of being able to run my setup by 20 watts lol.. A new PSU has been on my list for about a year now.

    Anyway here is my setup for people saying its crap parts..

    AMD FX 6100 overclocked to 4.73 gigawats
    Corsair Obsadian Case
    Corsair 520watt Powersupply
    8gb DDR3 Ram Kingston
    SSD 120gb Kingston Hyper-X
    WD Raptor Harddrive 250gb
    AMD 6950
    Custom Loop Trip Rad Water cooling
    Gigabyte Ultra duable mobo
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    Last edited by The-Alchemist; 09-05-2013 at 10:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The-Alchemist View Post
    My power supply is not crap. It is a corsair module powersupply. None of the parts in my computer are crap.. However, the corsair psu is 5 years old and only 520 watts running a CPU overclocked. I did the math and I am just within tolerance of being able to run my setup by 20 watts lol.. A new PSU has been on my list for about a year now.
    A new PSU would definitely help your setup in the long run, but I don't think it's going to solve your problems.

    Personally, I would step down your AMD's clock a bit (try 4.3ghz) and see if that helps at all. I had my i7 3770k overclocked to 5.0ghz and always wondered why I was getting a frame drop in the beta of FFXIV, and after stepping it down to 4.0 for a test I saw a big performance increase. I have no idea why it works that way, but it did and it's all I can really think to suggest outside of giving AMD's beta drivers a try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The-Alchemist View Post
    I did the math and I am just within tolerance of being able to run my setup by 20 watts lol.. A new PSU has been on my list for about a year now.

    AMD FX 6100 overclocked to 4.73 gigawats
    Corsair Obsadian Case
    Corsair 520watt Powersupply
    8gb DDR3 Ram Kingston
    SSD 120gb Kingston Hyper-X
    WD Raptor Harddrive 250gb
    AMD 6950
    Custom Loop Trip Rad Water cooling
    Gigabyte Ultra duable mobo
    I'll just go ahead and assume that since you're running water cooling everything is ok on the thermal front. When you did your wattage calculation did you factor in the radiators as well? Assuming they're running off the PSU and not external power. It might be a pain but I'd recommend picking up a higher-wattage psu from a store with a good return policy. Probably a 650w with your setup. Hook it up and test it out and see if there's any changes. If it didn't fix anything take it back. Or if it did fix it and you can find a better deal online and don't mind waiting take it back

    If you're absolutely confident in your hardware then I'd recommend backing up your bios profile ( if you can ) and then defaulting the BIOs and start benchmarking and torture testing to check stability.

    I'm not too crazy about the guide but there's a lot of decent free software for benchmarking and torture testing on this site:
    http://www.pcworld.com/article/20288...-hardware.html

    Slowly build your overclock up till you can narrow down where it can't take it anymore and then find a happy medium between thermal performance and high O/C number. I probably don't have to tell you this, but those who aren't aware, even with a high # and thermal stability you can still squeeze out more performance at lower overclocks when the thermal limit isn't border-lined.

    Worst case you can always check to see if there's a firmware update for the video card, or just RMA it.
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    Last edited by arctic; 09-07-2013 at 02:26 AM.
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    Cyldra Nightwind
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    HD 6870 user here. Using 13.8 Beta2 and consistently having the driver crash and recover up to 6 to 7 times per day. It has only caused my game to crash once or twice. This only happens with FFXIV and no other game. There are no problems with my hardware at all. Voltages and temps are all normal.

    I also hope this gets fixed because I really don't want to have to revert to 13.4 because the performance boost is nice. I only have to wait between 5 and 15 seconds for the driver to recover. Sure it's annoying but meh what are ya gonna do about it really?
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    Errolyn Draconis
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    I am running a 6800 everything is turned up to max, no problems here. running Driver Packaging Version 9.012-121219a-152192C-ATI
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