Are Monks weakest DPS?

[CursedCoffee]

There is so much bad advice going out in this thread, it's incredible.

Currently monks are the best dps in the game. The trick is to stop using demolish and touch of death. I'm not kidding. There are spread sheets out there, you can look it up for yourselves. But currently monks can parse for approximately 190-210 dps in level 45 AF gear. Other classes peak at about 170.

As far as difficulty is concerned, once you cut the fat from your rotation it's basically 1234123412341234. Simplest class in the game.

Current pecking order is as follows: MNK > SMN > BLM > DRG(this varies on fight) > BRD

You people really need to stop calling the best dps class in the game the worst simply because you don't understand math or the class. :P


EDIT: To add a bit of additional evidence to this claim, Blue Garter's BL group consisted of PLD PLD WHM WHM MNK MNK MNK DRG
There is a reason for that madness, and it isn't because MNK sucks.

[Teeko]

There is so much bad advice going out in this thread, it's incredible.

Currently monks are the best dps in the game. The trick is to stop using demolish and touch of death. I'm not kidding.

Not saying you are wrong, but why are you saying not to use those dots? Which abilities do you use instead? Is Fracture at least worth it?

Trying to improve my monk dps, so I am just curious

[kukurumei]

Not saying you are wrong, but why are you saying not to use those dots? Which abilities do you use instead? Is Fracture at least worth it?

Trying to improve my monk dps, so I am just curious

Mnks use demolish/touch of death because they have to
Pugists do not. They have way way way better skills to choose from.

Though realistically Dots are pretty meh, except for fights you run away from. Except for fracture, they have disgustingly long animations. They do provide faster Limit break charging.

[Kevee]

Currently monks are the best dps in the game. The trick is to stop using demolish and touch of death. I'm not kidding. There are spread sheets out there, you can look it up for yourselves. But currently monks can parse for approximately 190-210 dps in level 45 AF gear. Other classes peak at about 170.

Those spreadsheets are from Beta when % buffs didn't work with DoTs.

Now all buffs do, GL, FoF, etc.

You should be using the DoTs, they're your hardest hitting skills if they have time to bleed out.

[Thotor]

Currently monks are the best dps in the game. The trick is to stop using demolish and touch of death. I'm not kidding. There are spread sheets out there, you can look it up for yourselves. But currently monks can parse for approximately 190-210 dps in level 45 AF gear. Other classes peak at about 170.]

190 on training dummy ? That's my dps as BRD.
Just because one group use mainly MNKs as DPS doesn't mean they are the best.

Anyway none of this is relevant. The issue with monks is that it requires too much positioning and encounters makes it very hard for MNK. You can have the best dps on dummy, there is no use to it if you can't apply it in a real situation.

[Kasrai]

To add a bit of additional evidence to this claim, Blue Garter's BL group consisted of PLD PLD WHM WHM MNK MNK MNK DRG
There is a reason for that madness, and it isn't because MNK sucks.

Of course. Because it's definitely not a case of current endgame content being a joke right? No that can't possibly be it. This is the hardest endgame content ever made! /sarcasm

"Dude I saw Tiger Woods beat my dad in a round of golf using a rubber chicken as his only club. Obviously the rubber chicken is the next big thing in golf."

[Powercow]

Of course. Because it's definitely not a case of current endgame content being a joke right? No that can't possibly be it. This is the hardest endgame content ever made! /sarcasm

Yeah everyone's got Coil on easymode farm. Why you see pugs for that everywhere!

Or is Amdapor endgame as far as you're concerned?

[Kasrai]

Yeah everyone's got Coil on easymode farm. Why you see pugs for that everywhere!

Or is Amdapor endgame as far as you're concerned?

The game has been out a week and Coil is starting to be cleared already. Are you seriously using the fact that pugs aren't clearing it as your argument? Back peddle some more.

[Powercow]

The game has been out a week and Coil has been cleared already. Are you seriously using the fact that pugs aren't clearing it as your argument? Back peddle some more.

Oh? Who's cleared Coil?

[Kasrai]

Oh? Who's cleared Coil?

Starting to be cleared. It's 5:40am and I haven't slept yet -.-