Are Monks weakest DPS?

[Apoc1216]

I personally have just been using this rotation, as it allows for damage buff to never fall off and keeping your dots up:

ToD > BS > TwS > Demo > BS > TrS > SP > BS > TwS > SP > BS > TrS > Demo > BS > TwS > SP > BS > TrS > SP > ToD

And on top of that you can throw in your instants/Non-Global CD's. Personally, this is just my idea because I can count abilities very well and it's great because if you mess up you can easily "reset" by doing BS > TwS > Demo and ToD.
Of course you need to be aware of positions, make sure you are either on the side or back for the abilities to get the bonus damage/crit %.

PS: I wrote this before I was 50 so I am still unsure of when to throw in DK but I honestly think DK is a quick way to get 3 stacks of GL.

Personal Opinion: Monk's are fun. REALLY fun. Probably the most fun I have had since a Blademaster back in DAoC when I was soloing Purples in Darkness Falls. Mmm.

[Mishaela]

PS: I wrote this before I was 50 so I am still unsure of when to throw in DK but I honestly think DK is a quick way to get 3 stacks of GL.

Uh, what? Dragon Kick doesn't give you GL. It's a form-neutral attack that gets a bonus when used after the third form (that is, while in opo-opo just like Bootshine). If you're going to use Perfect Balance you want to use 3rd form skills first to get GL up ASAP then transition into "normal" 3-step combos starting with DK to get the blunt resistance debuff on the target. If you don't have Perfect Balance available, your positioning determines whether DK or Bootshine is your better opener (DK if you can flank, Bootshine if you can't). In theory, I think, until proven otherwise by parses, you want to use Dragon Kick every time the debuff falls off the target (in multiple MNK party, 1 MNK can be designated to focus on keeping it up allowing the other(s) to Bootshine more often for better group DPS), which will mean about every other rotation (about 6 seconds per rotation at 50 with 3 stacks of GL and a bit of skill speed gear).

[Apoc1216]

Uh, what? Dragon Kick doesn't give you GL.

Sorry I read my post and it was confusing. I got confused on DK putting you in Couerl form instead of Raptor. My bad!

Also, do you see the debuff from DK fall off after one attack? Maybe it's just me but I can't seem to find it the attack directly after DK.

[Mishaela]

Sorry I read my post and it was confusing. I got confused on DK putting you in Couerl form instead of Raptor. My bad!

Also, do you see the debuff from DK fall off after one attack? Maybe it's just me but I can't seem to find it the attack directly after DK.

The debuff from DK lasts 15 seconds, so you have time for two Bootshine rotations before you need to reapply DK on your third rotation. I recommend you put your target bar near near your hotbars if you haven't already done that so you can have an easier time keeping an eye on enemy debuffs (for example, not on my monk, but something like this)

[Apoc1216]

The debuff from DK lasts 15 seconds, so you have time for two Bootshine rotations before you need to reapply DK on your third rotation. I recommend you put your target bar near near your hotbars if you haven't already done that so you can have an easier time keeping an eye on enemy debuffs (for example, not on my monk, but something like this)

Thanks! I have already done that, it's probably just my eyes going bad.

[Ownage]

My personal experience in Farming Ifrit, and lv 50 DGs... when fighting boss i am always the top DPS or the second top when there is a Bard on the same Party... i dun know nothing about parses and stuff i am talking about real exp.

But wht makes the diference in beeing the top or the last dps in the scale?

- Equips (dpsing side by side with ppl with ilvl higher than u will cause your dps to be left behind)
- Positioning (Monk rely too much in positioning, if you dont know how to take advantage of that u wont be a good dpser)
- GL (you you gotta work miracles lol, but thats why playing monk is so fun, cause we are cool, we are kung fu pros and we are not easy-mode-on-class)
- Work your stuff right (if u want to kick asses just use perfect balance at the start of the battle and hit 2 times for a gl3 and keep it that should help the starting DPS sometimes makes all of the diference, and some times if you take to much time starting dpsing, you wont be abble to cacht up other ppl).

[neoreturn]

Monk is definitely the weakest DPS. Not pure DPS point of view but in over all. Monk need close fight but with light armer.Monk is very easy to die compare with dragoon and other ranged class. monk can't roll plate armor but all melee class can roll need on monk armor. Last night I got a lvl50 dragoon roll need on leather armor. I don't recommend any one play monk. It is hard and has no advantage compare with other class at moment. When pull mob,monk is also slow. So you are pretty much watch other grab the mob you like to kill. I will switch to other class later. Pug actually may do more Dmg than monk since pug can use archer skill.

[Spythe]

Monk is definitely the weakest DPS. Not pure DPS point of view but in over all. Monk need close fight but with light armer.Monk is very easy to die compare with dragoon and other ranged class.

This is why everyone talking about DSP and rotations should be posting in the Monk Temple thread. With a title like this one you're gonna get people shining in just to bash Monk DPS without any solid evidence. One of his reasons why Monks are bad is because its "hard" LOL. I been talking about the use of Impulsive Drive in your rotation and starting to think it may not be that useful on boss fights. It seems like constantly moving your chain is more effective and helps keep GL up.

[ilJumperMT]

This is why everyone talking about DSP and rotations should be posting in the Monk Temple thread. With a title like this one you're gonna get people shining in just to bash Monk DPS without any solid evidence. One of his reasons why Monks are bad is because its "hard" LOL. I been talking about the use of Impulsive Drive in your rotation and starting to think it may not be that useful on boss fights. It seems like constantly moving your chain is more effective and helps keep GL up.

Lol Dragoon are squishier then monks, while they have the lower dps.

They still have their job. Burst DPS on adds, something monk cannot do or black mage

[Spythe]

Lol Dragoon are squishier then monks, while they have the lower dps.

They still have their job. Burst DPS on adds, something monk cannot do or black mage

I don't know about squishier but every class has their rolls in raids, I find it funny how soooo early into a new game the only thing people seem to care about is raw DPS numbers which normally means nothing unless you're wiping to an enrage or not downing a boss quick enough or running out of mana.