to me the question is whether there is really someone logging you guys out and if there is a job description within SE for that. Im not waiting 2h after I logged off to have some late lunch. Now after 2 hours I saw a loading screen again and it seemed my character was logged off but again the client suprised me throwing a "server lost the connection" error at me without even giving it a number. Well long story short patch was worth NIL login situation did not get any better ... lets try after SE fucked it up again and they get back with FFXiV A real Re-Re-Born in about 2-3 years.