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  1. #1
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    Mazdryk1's Avatar
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    Valdon Drakonus
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    Arcanist Lv 48

    Scholar DPS half of WHM or any other class

    Scholar has half the DPS that a WHM has while in cleric stance which you can easily come and go from. I don't even feel that I need to break down the spells because its so obvious.

    Scholar nuke does 80
    WHM nuke does 187 (170 +10% from cleric stance)

    Scholar does get 2 dots compared to WHM one dot but that hardly makes a difference.

    This class needs a seriouse look at its DPS. I would advise giving it a trait that adds 120% to scholar nuke.
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    Valdon Drakonus
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    Arcanist Lv 48
    I know some people will come here and say "its a healing class not a DPS class". Does that mean that I need to take 2X as long to solo pve as everyone else? Maybe I should be like everyone else and just switch to Summoner for PVE but that's not what I want to do.
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    Iontas Emrys
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 46
    Perhaps you should actually look at the 2 classes skills before creating totally uninformed threads like this? Here is a comparison of dmg just through 30 since you clearly are only focusing on first dinging scholar.

    WHM

    Aero - 50 + 25 potency, 18s = 200 potency
    Stone II = 170 potency

    SCH

    Bio 40 potency, 18s = 240 potency
    Miasma 20 + 35 potency, 24 seconds = 300 potency
    Bio II = 35 potency, 30 seconds = 350 potency
    Ruin = 80 potency
    Energy Drain = 150 potency

    WHM have a dot ticking for 25 potency, SCH have 3 dots ticking for 150 potency. Of course the math gets more complicated due to cast times and initial damages and whatnot, but you get the point. You are simply completely wrong, SCH actually does more damage than a WHM. Also SCH has access to Cleric Stance as well (along with Aero).

    On top of doing more damage they also have a fairy auto-healing them the whole time so they don't have to stop casting ever.
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    Najiek Lucan
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    Conjurer Lv 30
    So Owned... And the funny part is, with my WHM, even though soloing damage is lower, it's to be expected and I don't mind. I do ENOUGH damage to not feel underpowered, and when I roll dutys, I turn into SUPER healer =D
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    Astrid Merle
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by Iontas View Post

    On top of doing more damage they also have a fairy auto-healing them the whole time so they don't have to stop casting ever.
    Also free spell speed from Selene half the time for what it's worth. Shouldn't really need Eos for soloing. Also, I believe miasma ii is a 4th DoT.

    to the op: ruin isn't a nuke. It's filler.
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    Last edited by fanservice; 09-09-2013 at 03:32 AM.

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    Esyld Ryder
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    i can pump out just shy of 100 dps without cleric stance as a sch whilst healing titan HM, we do NOT need more dmg lol..
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    Baconknight Ryder
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Mazdryk1, you should really think about trying to contact a mod to see if they can delete this thread. Rather embarrassing to have this attached to you now to be honest....
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    Deeg Astra
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Mazdryk1 View Post
    I know some people will come here and say "its a healing class not a DPS class". Does that mean that I need to take 2X as long to solo pve as everyone else? Maybe I should be like everyone else and just switch to Summoner for PVE but that's not what I want to do.
    To be fair, jobs are intended for group play. They are 'specialized' versions of their corresponding class. In this case, the scholar is a healing/support skewed take on the arcanist. With this said, it is expected that each job's soloability will vary greatly (some being able to do it fairly well and others not so much).

    For solo play, you really shouldn't be running around with a job stone equipped.
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    Najiek Lucan
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    Conjurer Lv 30
    Quote Originally Posted by Bossmoney View Post
    Mazdryk1, you should really think about trying to contact a mod to see if they can delete this thread. Rather embarrassing to have this attached to you now to be honest....
    HAHAHA This right here!
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    Ruby Lux
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    Excalibur
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    Botanist Lv 90
    don't forget you can cross class aero and thunder also, so you can have a ton of dots ticking.
    Although its just easier to switch to acn or smn if you are going to solo since youll have a pet to tank multiple monsters and not have to worry about spell interrupts.
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