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  1. #31
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    cfStatic's Avatar
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    Reyka Skyyguarde
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    Behemoth
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by DSWBeef View Post
    Furthermore, as a result of the countermeasures taken to alleviate stress on the Duty Finder servers, we expect to be able to increase the number of players able to login simultaneously; however, if those login numbers still surpass the maximum number of possible logins in the various Worlds, please be aware that we will continue to implement login restrictions.
    Which is stupid. I've been telling my FC since I heard about this patch that this would do nothing in regards to the 1017 error. They need to add worlds and then funnel existing characters off of the worlds they're on and onto the new ones(overall, the percentage of people that are just going to abandon their characters now is small). Aside from the coming population drop after everyones free time is over, that is the only thing that is going to alleviate the error.
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    Stiler Orion
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    WHY RESTRICT LOGINS?

    It makes no sense to me, they have a queue system, why not USE IT? Like most any other mmo has.

    instead of restricting logins, let us actually you know, get into the bloody queue? So we don't have to sit there hitting login over and over and over and instead can get into the queue, go do something else, and come back when it's time to get in.

    That is the ENTIRE POINT of a bloody queue system, and the way SE is using it makes absolutely no sense at all.
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  3. #33
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    Nekhii Nergui
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    The thing that piss me off is the message they have. "Wait until a slot is free and try again" How the f**k should I know when a spot is free when not in a queue or anything.

    Worst launch ever from all +10 MMO's I played.
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  4. #34
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    Don Ironheart
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    Gilgamesh
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Stiler View Post
    WHY RESTRICT LOGINS?

    It makes no sense to me, they have a queue system, why not USE IT? Like most any other mmo has.

    instead of restricting logins, let us actually you know, get into the bloody queue? So we don't have to sit there hitting login over and over and over and instead can get into the queue, go do something else, and come back when it's time to get in.

    That is the ENTIRE POINT of a bloody queue system, and the way SE is using it makes absolutely no sense at all.
    Read the patch notes numbnuts.
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    Gilgamesh FC Darksentinels

  5. #35
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    Kinta Ikari
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    OMGERD! I'm getting so sick of people whining saying "why did they take the queues away?" "Why aren't they using them!" Does no one read the flippin forums? There is a reason why they took away the queues! It was causing problems because 1000's of people were all trying to log in at once. You do realize if you are in a queue, you are essentially connected to the server in SOME way. It isn't just flippin magic that holds your spot. Next time before whining that it's the "worst launch ever". Freaking take the time to read the forums, especially the one titled "LETTERS FROM THE DEVELOPER"
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  6. #36
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    Crashdummy Khammazon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sin_Nombre View Post
    Uh. I thought they fixed this? Aren't we supposed to get put in a queue now or something?
    You should give it a little time. The first day might be a little chaotic.

    Quote Originally Posted by DSWBeef View Post
    Sigh...... the log in restriction is still in place til the initial server rush is over. Be patient..
    Although i agree with you, it would have been handled better with a QUEUE.
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  7. #37
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    Stiler Orion
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    Maybe I just don't understand how having people placed into a queue (a line basically to get into the server) is somehow "bad" yet having those same people sitting there pinging the servers over and over and over logging in again and again is somehow better?

    It would seem to me that using the queues would put less of a strain on the server and less people constantly pinging it to get in as they'd just get into queue.

    You do understand a queue doesn't actually take up a ton of bandwidth/space right? It's basically some small network that tells people where they are in queue and in refreshes to them when people get in, which logically would make it (Generally) easier on a server then people constantly pinging it to get in again and again.

    Furthermore they could even split them, with a queue being on a separate server then the game...so that would take care of that entire "but it's hurting the servers" aspect.
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  8. #38
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    Delsus Highwind
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    Odin
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    Red Mage Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Stiler View Post
    WHY RESTRICT LOGINS?

    It makes no sense to me, they have a queue system, why not USE IT? Like most any other mmo has.

    instead of restricting logins, let us actually you know, get into the bloody queue? So we don't have to sit there hitting login over and over and over and instead can get into the queue, go do something else, and come back when it's time to get in.

    That is the ENTIRE POINT of a bloody queue system, and the way SE is using it makes absolutely no sense at all.
    You do realize the lobby is a server with finite resources don't you? So let's say they have 30,000 people spamming to log in the lobby has to manage the queues whilst adding more people to them, the amount of connections to the lobby keeps increasing it will eventually crash, this is why we see 1017,once login restrictions start to get lifted we will see 1017 much less as the load on the lobby is alleviated.

    I'll tell you how the lobby works with queues, think of one door in (the finite thoughput of the WAN) and 25 doors out (the connections to each game server) now the lobby has to get everyone coming in that one door, find out where they need to go out and place them in the correct queue, every one of these 25 queues needs to be managed (just think how annoyed you would be if you were 2nd in the queue, then 200th) using my 30,000 from before all of these 30,000 need managing, whilst more people are coming through the one door, whilst ensuring you are sending all connections out of the right door, whilst all spamming is saying "I'm sorry we are full right now please come back later." which is far easier.

    If they put us all into a queue straight away the lobby would crash because it doesn't normally need to handle that kind of load.
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    Last edited by Delsus; 09-04-2013 at 08:46 PM.

  9. #39
    Player Crica's Avatar
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    Carpe Noctum
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    just like servers can get full, so can queues - if there is no room on a server when you try to log in, it will put you in a queue but if there is no room in the queue when you try to log in, it will ask you to try again later because both the server and queue for the server is full

    they increased the capacity of all servers and added three new servers and improved the duty finder stress load by only using small groups of servers to pool from instead of all servers

    since A SHITE TON of players are all trying to get in the SMALL doors atm they have to restrict how many can wait to come in the door until only a FEW are trying to get in the door

    if MORE ppl still want to play the game then can be held in the current servers they will add MORE servers

    till then if you do get lucky enough to get a piece of the pie, be sure to put it in the fridge when you are not nibbling on it! (IE: dont log out unless they shut down the servers to add more servers)
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    Skeksis Poloma
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 90
    The patch notes said that soon after servers open, logins will still be restricted to manage the rush...
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