AFTER 10 HOURS SERVERS FULL??

[Zanetsuken]

My issue with the whole "server meltdown" idea is that Squeenix knows exactly what login numbers look like (every service on the internet has metrics for this sort of thing) and they know exactly what their servers can handle. It's clearly indicated in the hardware's specs. You can't really "overload" the hardware by accident without intentionally telling the hardware to accept more incoming connections than it's programmed to handle. You can only push so much data down a wire and the hardware on the other end of that wire is engineered specifically to handle that quantity of date. If more people than the servers can physically handle attempt to log in then they'll just get turned down by the routers.

I had a contract with an MMO publisher of note for four months, and their policy was to launch with a good deal more server capacity than they expected to need to prevent these sorts of issues. From my understanding, a lot of these large hardware contracts have deals with their server and network hardware providers that allow them to return underutilized hardware within the first three months for a partial, if not complete, refund, allowing them to OVER-provide without worrying that much about the cost. I'm sure Squeenix has the same sort of setup with whoever's providing their hardware. It's all also under warranty, so there shouldn't be any real concern for testing and whatnot beyond what the hardware specs indicate. All that testing is already done for them by the manufacturer.

Even if they end up with more worlds than they need, that's what server merges are for.

Ahh the SW:TOR way of launching.

Worked well for them...until the free playtime was over and their playerbase vanished.

Server merges are useful, but it's hardly a shining endorsement when you have to merge worlds in the first 90 days (using your contract suggestion).

We're still inside the first 30 days.

[Arminus]

Ahh the SW:TOR way of launching.

Worked well for them...until the free playtime was over and their playerbase vanished.

Server merges are useful, but it's hardly a shining endorsement when you have to merge worlds in the first 90 days (using your contract suggestion).

We're still inside the first 30 days.

At least is shows confidence in your product, even if half the population ditches later down the road at least show some confidence in your product.

[naardejood]

Ahh the SW:TOR way of launching.

Worked well for them...until the free playtime was over and their playerbase vanished.

Server merges are useful, but it's hardly a shining endorsement when you have to merge worlds in the first 90 days (using your contract suggestion).

We're still inside the first 30 days.

Just about everything that happens after the first week of a game's sales, online or otherwise, is irrelevant. Investors base their forecasts on preorders and first-week sales and financial investment is how companies like Squeenix make their money, not on providing products or services.

After that first week, I'm sure Squeenix won't really give a shit about much of anything when it comes to *any* game. It's sad, but that's just sort of the reality of the industry. After the initial, "Look at how amazing our game is doing! Our servers are always full!" the investors will dump their money into the company and wait for the dividends to roll in until something catastrophic happens that threatens their principal investment.

Aside from that, MMO publishers that use a standard retail model make most of their money off boxed sales and not from subscriptions. They can pull down as many servers as they want to keep in line with subscription income. Even if the game fails entirely after a few months, they've already made their profit off preorders, boxed/digital sales and investments. That's why they were willing to let people play 1.0 for free for months and months and months. It was more profitable to keep the server load up and keep investors thinking that things are going well.

[MynxLynx]

Even if they end up with more worlds than they need, that's what server merges are for.

Players do not like merges. Merges cause all kinds of conflicts and the result is even more people leaving. In EQ2 my server was merged three times in the span of a couple years. Each time the economy, community, name database and achievement lists were left in shambles. We had guilds who obtained world firsts leave the game forever because they lost their achievements. We had players who lost their names leave forever due to broken hearts. We had crafters leave due to the huge influx of new crafters due to markets being flooded resulting in abysmal prices. Do merges sound so wonderful now? If one or more of the above happened to you would you continue to play with the same enthusiasm? If they can find the right balance for the existing servers they won't have to read forum threads crying for merges(like you constantly find on battle.net).

[Knovah]

My issue with the whole "server meltdown" idea is that Squeenix knows exactly what login numbers look like (every service on the internet has metrics for this sort of thing) and they know exactly what their servers can handle. It's clearly indicated in the hardware's specs. You can't really "overload" the hardware by accident without intentionally telling the hardware to accept more incoming connections than it's programmed to handle. You can only push so much data down a wire and the hardware on the other end of that wire is engineered specifically to handle that quantity of date. If more people than the servers can physically handle attempt to log in then they'll just get turned down by the routers.

I had a contract with an MMO publisher of note for four months, and their policy was to launch with a good deal more server capacity than they expected to need to prevent these sorts of issues. From my understanding, a lot of these large hardware contracts have deals with their server and network hardware providers that allow them to return underutilized hardware within the first three months for a partial, if not complete, refund, allowing them to OVER-provide without worrying that much about the cost. I'm sure Squeenix has the same sort of setup with whoever's providing their hardware. It's all also under warranty, so there shouldn't be any real concern for testing and whatnot beyond what the hardware specs indicate. All that testing is already done for them by the manufacturer.

Even if they end up with more worlds than they need, that's what server merges are for.

While what you say may be true, I don’t know I am a nurse not a computer tech, in my honest opinion server merges suck and games try to avoid it …AOC, Rift, SWTOR, all started with tons of serves and had same issues.
People flocked to the forums to scream more servers more servers… then they flocked to the forums to scream NO population merges merge…. then they flocked to the forums to complain about ruining the economy... I lost my name … not fair this how come we have to merge make them merge …. And so on and so on…
So yes what you say can be done and is a quick fix I am sure but I am against server merges right off…just incites people to doom and gloom predictions and more not fair posts (we have enough of those already)… sometimes it is not about what they can do and speculating what they have or don’t have sometimes it is just watching past history…Just how I feel on the situation

[Genmu]

Epic fail as predicted, I was pretty sure this was only a band-aid and was right.

[Arriverderci]

While what you say may be true, I don’t know I am a nurse not a computer tech, in my honest opinion server merges suck and games try to avoid it …AOC, Rift, SWTOR, all started with tons of serves and had same issues.
People flocked to the forums to scream more servers more servers… then they flocked to the forums to scream NO population merges merge…. then they flocked to the forums to complain about ruining the economy... I lost my name … not fair this how come we have to merge make them merge …. And so on and so on…
So yes what you say can be done and is a quick fix I am sure but I am against server merges right off…just incites people to doom and gloom predictions and more not fair posts (we have enough of those already)… sometimes it is not about what they can do and speculating what they have or don’t have sometimes it is just watching past history…Just how I feel on the situation

Sadly, it will happen. We're getting too many new servers. Time will pass and so and so server will be pretty dead. We just need more servers at this time since the amount of people are godlike trying to play. Another reason why I'm on the fence with moving to a new server.

[naardejood]

While what you say may be true, I don’t know I am a nurse not a computer tech, in my honest opinion server merges suck and games try to avoid it …AOC, Rift, SWTOR, all started with tons of serves and had same issues.
People flocked to the forums to scream more servers more servers… then they flocked to the forums to scream NO population merges merge…. then they flocked to the forums to complain about ruining the economy... I lost my name … not fair this how come we have to merge make them merge …. And so on and so on…
So yes what you say can be done and is a quick fix I am sure but I am against server merges right off…just incites people to doom and gloom predictions and more not fair posts (we have enough of those already)… sometimes it is not about what they can do and speculating what they have or don’t have sometimes it is just watching past history…Just how I feel on the situation

The sad thing is they could very well add more servers without increasing the number of worlds. I don't see why they won't simply add more hardware and balance the load of existing worlds across the new hardware.

[klaud_litah]

Were is the fix for people who bought the game on psn europe 27th and 28th august
???????eight days and still says no valide or active service.....F********

[Awalansh]

Ahahaha, server is full. If servers was full before this maintenance, and all what they do is adding few more, it's doesn't mean that old servers will freed. Omg, why they never reading they own FORUM. I've never seen any answers from moderators in themes. It's very sad.