Possibility to open FFXIV up to a moddable UI?

[Eekiki]

What we're worried about is that we'll see a situation in FFXIV like we do in WoW with the "Gear scores" and "Deadly Boss Mods". Many people consider these UI mods mandatory for participation.

Yeah, yeah, I know we don't *have* to use them, but the fact that so many people believe the game cannot be played without them takes a lot away from those of us who are satisfied with the default UI.

[Jinko]

What we're worried about is that we'll see a situation in FFXIV like we do in WoW with the "Gear scores" and "Deadly Boss Mods". Many people consider these UI mods mandatory for participation.

Yeah, yeah, I know we don't *have* to use them, but the fact that so many people believe the game cannot be played without them takes a lot away from those of us who are satisfied with the default UI.

We are talking about skins that change the look and position of the UI , not changing the way they work, there is a pretty big difference.

[Ava]

I'm not sure how opposed SE is to this, some people claim to remember Tanaka saying something in favor of it, but I remember the opposite. Anyways, I think it would be in the game's benefit to do something like Blizzard does with WoW. I know that's on the extreme end but with proper maintenance they can allow and disallow whatever they want. By locking people into a specific UI without customization, it causes players to look at third party overlays to simulate the addons. Things like windower, apradar, etc.

I think provided proper moderation, a fully customizable UI is the best option. If they don't want damage meters or boss mods, they could easily remove the ability to make such things. Blizzard does it, both games use LUA.

However, I'm not sure how any of this would work with the PS3. Although, I suppose there's nothing wrong with the two versions of the game being slightly different.

What we're worried about is that we'll see a situation in FFXIV like we do in WoW with the "Gear scores" and "Deadly Boss Mods". Many people consider these UI mods mandatory for participation.

Wow disallows GearScore now, and DBM is never "required" unless you're incapable of playing without it. If you raid and you start wiping the group because you can't grasp game mechanics, you'll generally be asked to download DBM. Personally, I haven't used boss mods since TBC and I did fine in the very successful guilds I was in. "Many people" consider them mandatory, but most people won't notice you're not using them unless you fail.

[Commat]

What we're worried about is that we'll see a situation in FFXIV like we do in WoW with the "Gear scores" and "Deadly Boss Mods". Many people consider these UI mods mandatory for participation.

GearScore was never mandatory. In WoW, while a group is assembling a player is in direct competition with other players for spots. If a pool of players available allows for a steeper gear/knowledge requirement then what is actually required for the run then why not take advantage? Players forming groups often check armory or others in game that do not have GearScore and allowed them into groups.

So what if you don't get a spot, that didn't ever make GearScore mandatory for participation. All it did was make the player aware that a more advanced player pool exists. One that will ignore players until they put in the time to get caught up.

Don't bother bringing up that GearScore is a poor indicator of Knowledge/skill/or gear choice. it is a well know fact and is just a tool for estimates before proper inspection or viewable performance. If you know in your heart that you can compete, it is on you to show the community by putting forth the effort.

Deadly boss mod takes information that is already available in game and smash's it in front of players. Not mandatory just easier for some players. Some will argue that it makes the game to easy but i disagree. Text in a combat log is no different then text anywhere else which is no different then someone giving directions on vent. Same information just a different delivery system.

If you are behind the curve, play with others in the same situation.
If you can figure out how to do a fight/coordinate with teammates through default delivery systems then do it. If people in your group need you to have to mods so that they can do their job, find new people or help them out by getting it.

I don't feel like what i have said is elitist or rude. I think often community members take out frustrations on things like GearScore, combat logs, or W/E because it is easier then examining the true cause of their frustration.