Other 'planned/leaked' classes.

[Arcell]

So again, tell me Peregrine what your idea is of a job that is not generic? I'm still waiting for you to actually acknowledge that question.

[Peregrine]

So again, tell me Peregrine what your idea is of a job that is not generic? I'm still waiting for you to actually acknowledge that question.

Lol I already told you three times and you missed it every chance you had.
Which job is less generic? Paladin with 20 years of FF history and a literary archetype behind it, or an Enforcer that you just pulled out of your ass right now?

Your ideas have no potential. We've already tried your ideas and they failed. No one should listen to your all's ideas, because we all just watched them crash and burn.

What, do you want to see another fireball trainwreck? Get out of here.

[Arcell]

Lol I already told you three times and you missed it every chance you had.
Which job is less generic? Paladin with 20 years of FF history and a literary archetype behind it, or an Enforcer that you just pulled out of your ass right now?

Your ideas have no potential. We've already tried your ideas and they failed. No one should listen to your all's ideas, because we all just watched them crash and burn.

What, do you want to see another fireball trainwreck? Get out of here.

So a class that has been done to death in literally every fantasy RPG in existence is not generic but something like Fencer or Flayer is. Yet disregarding that classes like Fencer, Musketeer, Bard and Assassin have a history in the FF series as well. In fact even Flayer does to some degree (Quistis FFVIII).

You don't know anything about the alpha classes aside from a name and a weapon or magic. None of us know anything else about them. You can't really say how generic or unique they will be until they release any kind of information on them.

Um, no.

Pretty sure having to level jobs to 50 to get anything interesting is horrible game design

No one said level them all to 50, just have a prerequisite. Think Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, you only have to level some jobs a bit (learn 3 abilities) to fulfill their requirement.

[Peregrine]

So a class that has been done to death in literally every fantasy RPG in existence is not generic but something like Fencer or Flayer is. Yet disregarding that classes like Fencer, Musketeer, Bard and Assassin have a history in the FF series as well. In fact even Flayer does to some degree (Quistis FFVIII).

You don't know anything about the alpha classes aside from a name and a weapon or magic. None of us know anything else about them. You can't really say how generic or unique they will be until they release any kind of information on them.



No one said level them all to 50, just have a prerequisite. Think Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, you only have to level some jobs a bit (learn 3 abilities) to fulfill their requirement.

Quistis was a blue mage, not evidence of a flayer. Bard is a legitimate FF job. Assassin starts to jump the shark. Enforcer just straight looks like they don't give a **** any more and are desperate to switch it up.

All I need to know about the jobs is that they look like someone pulled them out of their asses just like the jobs we have now. More of the same is more failure. They will bring nothing new to the table that archetypal FF classes would not, and they are generic MMO fodderpieces with no history or fan loyalty. They PANDER to players who don't know real innovation if it backhanded them. Pseudoinnovation. We call them novelties and gimmicks, these superficial pointless changes for change sake, when they really change nothing. All these players want is cats with whips. They don't understand anything higher than that.

If your generic jobs are just prerequisites, what are you going to do about everyone who levelled a generic piece of **** for 50 levels? Give them a voucer for a REAL job?

[Gracious]

Please Square, if you are going to release classes in the future, please don't get rid of the ideas that were leaked through the data bits.
Flayer (whip), Fencer (rapier), Stavesmen (Staff)... I mean you don't see those types of weapons in many mmo's damage dealing wise.

My Miqo'te needs her whip now so I can be cat-woman

I'd love to try out Flayer myself. I look forward to trying all the new jobs.

[Shelia]

My Miqo'te needs her whip now so I can be cat-woman

You and 99.9% of the FFXIV population. > _>

[Shelia]

I'm fine with prerequisites... but if they're going to have a set level (30, 40, 50, whatever) they should make leveling more fun. Like I said... it's pretty unbearable.

[Totobi]

Please... No Miqo'te with Whips... Either delete all traces of the Flayer class, or delete Miqo'te.

[Dargoth_Draconia]

I will have to disagree with you Falcon and even though I know Pugilist has majority of the Monk trademark moves if they implement a Job system where you obtain the ability to change into a Monk or some other class and take away all the special abilities away from pug it would be neat. You would just have you plain base hand to hand fighter with a handful of abilities but wouldn't have things like Second Wind, Seismic Shock, Victimize etc.

That way it is content that you have to unlock and you get a sense of accomplishment from that. My question though is at a certain point will they force you to change to Monk or let's say Thief at like rank 30 or 40 or something? Or will they keep all the general based classes and let them have some individuality for themselves at higher levels?

[Kallera]

Of those classic class you coughed up only two were in Final Fantasy 1, and the only reason you got those abbreviations was due to 11.

Wanna know how those two turned into those 5? Innovation.