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  1. #31
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    Avatar de Inviticus
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    aot 2013
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    30
    Character
    Vygar Dalratha
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Gladiateur Lv 37
    If Side Quests were repeatable once per class I'd be happy. If Dungeon and Guildleve XP was boosted to in or around the area that Fates give I'd do a lot more of those activities.

    There shouldn't be any single way to level quickly, they should all be good.
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  2. #32
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    Avatar de Orophin
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    mars 2011
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Orophin Calmcacil
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Gladiateur Lv 50
    I've been doing FATEs, Hunting Logs, Class Quests and the occasional side quests to get me to 15. After that I plan on doing dungeon runs with FATEs in between. I've always thought the xp rewarded from guildleves for battle classes was too low, so I just save them for my gatherers.
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  3. #33
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    Avatar de Unforgiven
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    aot 2013
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    Character
    Unforgiven Sin
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Gladiateur Lv 50
    Citation Envoyé par Qen Voir le message
    THIS.... on a new server a few days into launch there are already plenty of level 50s.. So a week to hit 50. If they made it that easy for ALL you other classes at well, you'd have plenty of people with all their classes maxxed in a couple of months. Thats not exactly a good thing for longevity of an MMO. Like it or not, in order for an MMO to survive it has to have some sort of time sink at the beginning in order to have time for content to catch up to the speed levelers.
    Again you are missing the point. People can and will still level just as fast if not faster due to not having to slow down with quest XP. They will simply grind FATES all the way up now. This is the issue at hand. Let's focus here.
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  4. #34
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    Avatar de Zarzak
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    aot 2013
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    Character
    Zarzak Tigerspirit
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Guerrier Lv 60
    Citation Envoyé par Shiyo Voir le message
    and traditional experience parties to come back.
    Experience parties on hard mobs teach me how to play my class, let me play my class, and offer slight challenges(needing to go faster and faster to keep chain for max exp/hour) and the ability to meet other players to run end game with.

    AGREED!

    Personally I hate the duty finder system in general due to the lack of actually having meaningful interactions but if they made it give out like 50k exp at the end (for lvl ~40 anyway) it would do a lot to bring dungeons more in line with fate grinding.
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  5. #35
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    Avatar de Demlix
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    Character
    Demlix Layze
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Occultiste Lv 50
    Citation Envoyé par Unforgiven Voir le message
    Again you are missing the point. People can and will still level just as fast if not faster due to not having to slow down with quest XP. They will simply grind FATES all the way up now. This is the issue at hand. Let's focus here.
    Is this thread for real? If you want to do the same quests again, start a new character for a different class.

    You get to level different classes on the SAME CHARACTER! You get to use your Aethernet locations, Chocobo, other skills from classes you've leveled, revealed map, etc... but you complain there isn't 6x the quest content so you can level them all "efficiently"? This system is already care bear, GTFO.
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  6. #36
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    Avatar de Unforgiven
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    aot 2013
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    Character
    Unforgiven Sin
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Gladiateur Lv 50
    Citation Envoyé par Demlix Voir le message
    Is this thread for real? If you want to do the same quests again, start a new character for a different class.

    You get to level different classes on the SAME CHARACTER! You get to use your Aethernet locations, Chocobo, other skills from classes you've leveled, revealed map, etc... but you complain there isn't 6x the quest content so you can level them all "efficiently"? This system is already care bear, GTFO.
    Not at all what I am saying. Please read the posts before commenting. I am not saying we should have more quests. I am saying that FATE XP needs to be toned down or other content XP needs to be toned up. We need to have XP rates equal for all content otherwise people will be forced into only grinding FATES if they want to level EFFICIENTLY. Adding more content if it were quests would be nice, but not something I expect as I know it is too much work to ask for. However, the adjustment of XP gains is something that can and should be addressed.
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  7. #37
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    Avatar de Seig345
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    janvier 2012
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Seigyoku Cypher
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Mage blanc Lv 66
    Personally, while 'efficiency' can be satisfying, I don't usually find it fun. Doing nothing but running around from fate to fate (when a fate in the area is even up) might be the most efficient way to level up, but as it seems to be suggested in this and other threads, it's not very fun.

    My personal solution is to not care about how 'efficient' my time is, xp/minute or some such craze. Instead I'm just gonna queue up on one class, and then do fates,side quests, class quests, leves, hunting logs, switch to a crafter or gatherer class, etc. Because I find those fun. I don't care about my xp per minute, so I guess, lucky me or somethin'.
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    "Ul'dah can keep their dusty markets, and their streets paved in silver and gold.
    Limsa Lominsa keep your pirates, and your ships covered in musty mold.
    My loyalty lies with Gridania, with the Moogles and the tree spirits of old." -The Forky Conjurer

  8. #38
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    Avatar de Demlix
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    Character
    Demlix Layze
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Occultiste Lv 50
    Citation Envoyé par Unforgiven Voir le message
    Not at all what I am saying. Please read the posts before commenting. I am not saying we should have more quests. I am saying that FATE XP needs to be toned down or other content XP needs to be toned up. We need to have XP rates equal for all content otherwise people will be forced into only grinding FATES if they want to level EFFICIENTLY. Adding more content if it were quests would be nice, but not something I expect as I know it is too much work to ask for. However, the adjustment of XP gains is something that can and should be addressed.
    All MMOs involve some sort of grind for something. Even doing to same raid over and over to get a certain piece you want is a grind believe it or not. I find FATEs to be enjoyable, and they should pay out more as they're random and you need to be right place right time, and they involve many people from the same area. It is an MMO after all. So I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.
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  9. #39
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    Avatar de Mishakai
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    mars 2011
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    Character
    Mishakai Katyn
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gladiateur Lv 50
    Leves, FATES, Dungeons, Logs, and Behests. Or, get a group of people of the same level together and go find a place to camp mobs high enough above you all to get good xp.

    Once PvP is in, who knows, maybe that will be viable. Right now, the above list is what you got.

    And remember, you're not a real 50 until your support class for your job is as well.
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  10. #40
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    Avatar de Dannythm
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    dcembre 2011
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    Gridania
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    771
    Character
    Kenshiro Joestar
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Maraudeur Lv 90
    I wish they kept the game intact as it is, but only they brought back mob farming parties.

    I already have most of my combat classes maxed from 1.0, but I think into the future, when new classes get added, or on the people that's starting to play right now... level 6+ classes to 50 or more just doing FATE and the same dungeons it just sounds horrible.

    I'd rather SB party and farm mobs again, it was way more relaxing and fun, for me and at least I didn't had to be looking at the map all the time with that tension to spot a FATE and reach it in time to get any decent exp, because some fates aren't up more than 1 or 2 minutes.
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