Is everyone really ok with the TOKEN FARM best in slot garbage?

[Tyrusis]

Be silent. Raids have better gear than anything you can buy from the vendors, it just takes time. If you don't like it, go play WoW, oh wait, they have the same thing, wait a second, most of the MMOs out right now have a similar system.

+1.
I mean, not to mention this game has just been released and people are already up in arms. quite pathetic really. Let's take a look at WoW when it first came out. their Justice point system didn't exist, neither did their honour points system. You needed to get ranks to get gear.
I mean firstly, why do you think that you get the best in slot gear NOW when the game has just been released?? So you get prepared for the up coming patches/raids and the people committed enough can easily get prepared rather than to raid a boss 50 times and only see the item you want drop once only to lose it to the person who was clueless how to play the class. The game has been out for a week.. give it a break ._.

[Puck]

It's sort of like your two options of getting rich.

Play the lotto
You may have to do the dungeon a hundred times, you may only have to do it once! It'll feel amazing when you get your new hat, like shit when you see it go to someone else. They got a hat AND gloves.

Work 8 to 5
You know exactly how long it will take. You go in, do your thing and then you leave. It doesn't take long for parts of your brain to die, but as long as you have a spark left to visit the gear merchant, you'll have your new hat. It doesn't come with the feeling of being struck by lightning, but more like a long bath in liquid manure.


If I had to choose, I'd go with the lotto. Could take a lot longer to get a full set, but the 8 to 5 option is just too honest. It's the hope that any given run could be your last that keeps you going.

[Fated]

1) You can't actually get everything from tokens.
2) You'll never get weapons out of them
3) The Allagan stuff from Bahamut's Coil is far more "unique" in a sense.

The ability to down a tough boss and come out with that epic prize still exists. Some people are never happy.

[naaros]

My main complaint of not having the 8man story raid bosses drop loot is it gives little incentive to return (which is a shame because they are cool raids). Yes, you can use it to farm tomes, but I'm pretty sure Amdapor's Keep is faster and gives you both tomes (and loot) iirc. Plus, part of the fun of doing hard bosses is to see that shiney loot pop up for a nice victory. I was hoping the game would have more gear sets at the end-game, too. The 2 story 8man raids should have dropped a gear set to prepare you for the primals, Crystal Tower/Bahamut. As it is now, just doing a full run gets you 100 tomes which is nice, but beating bosses doesn't feel quite as satisfying.

/inb4gobacktoWoWandFFXI lols

[Ariyn]

Well good thing that BiS gear is dropped in this game! Darklight is not BiS ... allagan gear is, which drops in the coil.

[Junpei]

Im so tired of playing the new generation of MMO where the actual act of killing the boss and the excitement of seeing watch drops isnt important anymore. NO, now i need to farm tokens and buy my gear from a vendor who sits in town and sells the best items in game..

Hi MrFoxx,

I think the reasoning behind Darklight being purchaseable gear is that it used to be the best in slot, but now it is just an entry point into endgame.

You'll be happy to hear that the best gear in the game is currently only attainable from a dungeon and the gear you purchased with the Mythology Token (af+1) is basically your consolation prize.

[Shiyo]

Token system is the best system, relying on RNG drops to gear my character is never fun.

[Waphles]

I was never sure why they didn't do both. Now I'm only lvl 30 so I don't have a clue how the end game dungeons/raids are, but the very end-game raids could have bosses that drop one or two of the BiS or really top-end gear, but then also drop tokens.
After collecting 3-10 or whatever tokens you can turn it in for a piece of gear that's a tier or two lower than the actual gear the boss drops.
This way, you get the great feeling when your gear drops and you win it, while not diluting the BiS stuff at all, but if something else drops you still get the feeling of progression from collecting the tokens.
You'd still have to eventually farm the bosses for the very best gear but that's how it should be anyways.

[Sneakaboo]

Tokens aren't as fun as being lucky , but they feel a lot more rewarding than bad luck.
When you have a bad raid or normal run and you get a token you have a 'reward' if you get nothing it will feel like a waste of time.
Yeah you do it for fun, but not all runs end up being fun.

Taking a silly example.

- Ifrit HM: Now if I run it 30 times I can get my weapon for a token.

- I can run it 30 times and I get nothing ,my chance of getting it is as big as the first time.
In my case I ran it like 15+ and I've yet to see the staff or scholar book drop.


Drawing the line further some previous mmo's I played some raid loot didn't drop for 4 months straight.
Some other cases 8 months or just not a whole expansion.
I just don't see the charm in that.

You can always keep BIS gear random at the end since the moment it drops you've finished the content anway.
But just step up gear should be tokens.

[Randalthor]

I agree with the OP. Token gear should not be the best gear in game. The best gear should be rewarded by the hardest content. Tokens are a way to get gear that helps you progress further, but the best gear should only be available for those that earn it by completing a really difficult encounter (and no, 1017 does not count as a difficult encounter )