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  1. #3181
    Player
    Rhyku's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Estinien Wyrmblood
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MayuraT View Post
    Honestly i feel this is more of an issue than ilv with tanks. I've had a tank in lv50 roulette once with fresh 50+AF gear (the ilv 55 version) and ilv 25-20s accessories. So i "suggested" almost every other pull during our run that he should update his gear. But he knew what he was doing, pulled big and didn't lose hate to our lv capped DPS. That i applaud, at the very least he knew how to tank. Now on to those tanks at lv 50 and 60, still a 1-mob tank, still don't have provoke?!? come on...
    Oh of course, I don't deny that it's more of the player than gear, although the latter does play some part. I think I should have been clearer with that.
    I was just annoyed that there seems to be more of such tanks (or maybe it's just my bad luck), who don't use their GCDs, or even know the basics of tanking, at such an advanced level. :X
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  2. #3182
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    Pells's Avatar
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    P'lha Tahl
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MayuraT View Post
    So i "suggested" almost every other pull during our run that he should update his gear.
    If he doesn't have the gear coming into a dungeon, does it magically appear whenever somebody suggests he wear what he doesn't have? Mentioning it once is fine, but multiple times in a single dungeon is just being assinine.
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  3. #3183
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    Ashbury's Avatar
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    Character
    Francisca Ashbury
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Pells View Post
    If he doesn't have the gear coming into a dungeon, does it magically appear whenever somebody suggests he wear what he doesn't have? Mentioning it once is fine, but multiple times in a single dungeon is just being assinine.
    If he's doing lvl 50 roulette he should at least have the ilvl 90 AF gear since that is a reward for thr lvl 50 job quest, which he should have done anyway. The tank has no excuse to be using ilvl 55 AF gear.
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  4. #3184
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    AgnesTheStargazer's Avatar
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    Sharlayan
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    Character
    Agnes Hesperides
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 60
    This isn't technically much of a horror story as it ended well, but it left me a bitter taste in my mouth. I'm now levelling SCH to 60, had to do the Vault to get some EXP, i get in everyone says hi, except the tank. Just from that i knew what type of tank they were going to be. She doesn't even wait for buffs and runs off. First few pulls i notice: NO COOLDOWNS, only a few and quite rarely. the first few pulls go fine, except for the fact i had to heal her, a LOT. We arrive at first boss, guess what?, she doesn't even wait for a single Stoneskin or Succor pre-boss. She, for some reason, turns on Sword Oath instead of Shield Oath, as if she wasn't receiving much damage already (i even looked at her gear, it was all quite high level). continues like this until after the 2nd boss (to note that in 90% of the pulls she didn't wait for me and almost got killed a few times), where she asked the Ninja why they weren't using Doton a lot, so i, since i was quite angry atm i called her out on not using cooldowns instead. After that, she FINALLY started using cooldowns and the rest of the run went smooth.
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  5. #3185
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    Sida's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Sida Bajihri
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashbury View Post
    If he's doing lvl 50 roulette he should at least have the ilvl 90 AF gear since that is a reward for thr lvl 50 job quest, which he should have done anyway. The tank has no excuse to be using ilvl 55 AF gear.
    That is only the case since HW. If he had leveled that class to 50 before it, and let it hibernate before starting on it now, he would only have the i55 relic pieces.
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    If you say 'pls' because it's shorter than 'please', I say 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'.

  6. #3186
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    Nekotee's Avatar
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    Akihiko Hoshie
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    The player could have buy some ilevel 115 NQ stuff in ishgard
    Even NQ it's better than ilevel55 XD
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  7. #3187
    Player
    Pells's Avatar
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    P'lha Tahl
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashbury View Post
    If he's doing lvl 50 roulette he should at least have the ilvl 90 AF gear since that is a reward for thr lvl 50 job quest, which he should have done anyway. The tank has no excuse to be using ilvl 55 AF gear.
    And if he doesn't have it, he's not going to get it while still in the dungeon with you. Why mention it more than once?
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  8. #3188
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    EmeraldAres's Avatar
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    Green Bird Forest
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    Character
    Emerald Ares
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 80
    Been a really long time since I posted here, but I finally got one I want to share.

    Antitower. Usually routine and boring, and it was going to be until the tank instantly dropped after the first pull. Don't know why. Not going to try to guess why, but the entire run changed from there. It turned into a three man survival mode with just me, a monk, and a black mage. Since the enemies are so wimpy in Antitower, I could actually heal tank multiple at once while healing the others through one or two targets they nabbed. But we wiped on the pull before the first boss because the frog tamer guy died first and all four mobs hit me with a paralysis combo. Oh well, we pick ourselves up, come back, and finish off the stuff that didn't die.

    First boss. Got a tank yet? Nope. I started off tanking it from healing aggro and ended up taking a toy hammer to the face. But I knew it was gonna happen so I threw asylum and regen on myself with DS and sat through his entire attack while stunned. Barely lived, healed up. Survived multiple chorus cycles by hotting the group up before I got frogged. Only one guy was free to dps each cycle. At one point, the black mage lagged out while being the only one free. Without regen and medica II stacked, it would have been a wipe. Anyway, the boss goes down soon after that. Moving on.

    We clear the trash with me tanking up to 4 or 5 things at some points, spam healing myself while dodging aoes and pretending to be a tank who isn't wearing cardboard. We eventually get to Ziggy. Right after we start it, a tank comes in. But even if he wasn't locked out, he was absolutely useless. He had been trying to join in progress for friends or something and asked to be kicked. I really should have left him in the group to suffer with us, but I hesitantly agree to kick him after the boss because I need to concentrate on healing. The useless tank is apparently okay with this because he's still there after the boss goes down and I promptly boot him.

    Next set of trash. I get into a one on one staff vs axe duel with a wind up viking while the dps kill a magus. The pulls go well until the last room, where the dps focus on one of the little guys on the two centaur, two little guy pull and I take too much damage. Second wipe. We come back, I tell the monk to go acquaint himself with one of the centaurs because two at once plus a viking is more than I can apparently handle. It works, I tank the other three while they burn down the first centaur, then the second, then the little guys.

    Last boss. Got a tank yet? What, that's crazy talk. We go in. I'm fully expecting to die because knockout is really strong and even takes a decent chunk off of tanks. I was right. Monk gets confused and proceeds to join the boss in beating me to paste when it uses knockout. They pounce on me at the exact same time and I go from 100% to 0% faster than you can say "green eggs and ham."

    After the wipe, the three of us cry behind our monitors and dance with each other in game. A tank who isn't a useless waste of space finally shows up. Asks us what happened, I tell him, he's dumbfounded. We take out the boss and the monk wishes us a good night.

    Tank: Thanks for the easy lore.
    Me: Hardest Lore ever.
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    Last edited by EmeraldAres; 03-24-2016 at 03:34 PM.

  9. #3189
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    Rydia_Feymarchian's Avatar
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    Brynhildr
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    Character
    Rydia Feymarchian
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Aurum Vale, for once I don't que as scholar because I was one step away from DRG 60 and my tank friend was leveling DKR, we just decided to roll roulette as we were. We all say hello to each other and the first pull goes actually well, but -and I'm sorry but I keep an eye on hps even as dps- I notice the heals are low and knowing my friend I know it's unusual to see him struggle to keep his hp high, especially in such a map.

    After the first boss (that went smoothly because we all knew what to do, even if the hp was always on the low side) we wipe. And wipe. My friend just can't stay alive, leeches aren't used and at some point the healer goes all "sorry, all my gear is broken".
    O_O
    We suggest the healer to put on older gear, because it's definitely better than broken gear, but she has one. Me, dps and tank sigh and proceed. Wipex2 and she just goes afk after saying "go ahead, my fairy will heal you".->
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  10. #3190
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    Rydia_Feymarchian's Avatar
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    Brynhildr
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    Character
    Rydia Feymarchian
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    In a sync vale where she wasn't able to keep us alive while NOT being afk. Tank takes a few steps and we realize she's in follow and the whole group decides to wait.

    She returns after almost 10 minutes and she's angry because we should have trusted the fairy, blah blah blah. That, and a few previous comments that made me understand how she wasn't even trying, made me 'snap'. I tried to be gentle but I mentioned her that having a fairy that heals isn't a 'scholar perk' and that in vale and higher dungeon it just doesn't work.

    "What do you know?"
    "I main scholar?"

    She waits until we're in a fight to leave the party. After that I call in my healer friend and the rest of the run (a chamber and the last boss) and the rest goes smoothly but- it still felt off. Even because I don't think that such a behaviour helps too much with scholar repuration....
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