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  1. #1
    Player
    Azurr's Avatar
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    Azurr Dusk
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Speaking of kiting I was on my whm and the tank in cutters cry was new, so when I started to kite the ants he chased after me in circles for a good 3 minutes (we got the new player message but they never said it was them). That was long enough for a second set to spawn at which point he gave up xD

    My favorite comment was made by a scholar in t1 back when it was kind of relevant. 'I am a battle mage, I don't heal~'
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  2. #2
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    technole's Avatar
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    Thea Sitori
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Saseal View Post
    I always felt like I had judging eyes staring into my soul o____o Do I Fire II.... possibly throw hate from this tank.... and I get in trouble..... or do I not.... and only hit what he's hitting... and get silently judged for not Fire II-ing....? xD
    As a tank alt, I always say play the best you can as BLM because we hate seeing slow DPS, BLMs that don't AoE, and "Ice Mages". More importantly it will teach them that they can't rely on 'weak' hate on mobs they don't want to hit. A good tank will learn to split their combo between mobs to keep their aggro high enough so AoEs don't rip. Plus others won't be forgiving when they get to expert roulette level if they don't know how to get good with aggro on a big pull, they will suffer. The earlier they learn, the easier it gets.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bamboofox View Post
    *horrible AST with still a <50 ilvl weapon in level 51 dungeon*
    I remember hearing from someone a DRK dying to just the first 3 hits from the first mob in Dusk Vigil, they had some level 15 right sides and I think just a level 48 weapon and paltry left-sides. Yet they were a level 60 SCH main. You would think they know how gear progression is being a healer.

    I agree with Selli that the healer should have been kicked from the first death, because the carrying needs to stop somewhere. To add to herpoint there is even a vendor in the AST guild that sells weapons.
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    Sagittarian's Avatar
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    Nesshin'na Kasai
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Saseal View Post
    I always felt like I had judging eyes staring into my soul o____o Do I Fire II.... possibly throw hate from this tank.... and I get in trouble..... or do I not.... and only hit what he's hitting... and get silently judged for not Fire II-ing....? xD
    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    As a tank alt, I always say play the best you can as BLM because we hate seeing slow DPS, BLMs that don't AoE, and "Ice Mages". More importantly it will teach them that they can't rely on 'weak' hate on mobs they don't want to hit. A good tank will learn to split their combo between mobs to keep their aggro high enough so AoEs don't rip. Plus others won't be forgiving when they get to expert roulette level if they don't know how to get good with aggro on a big pull, they will suffer. The earlier they learn, the easier it gets.
    If the mobs are marked, be nice and kill them in order. If not, assume AoE is expected. In expert it is now a test of the tank to see if I've grabbed aggro after my opener. It's fun watching a warrior who went into deliverance suddenly realize they can't get away with it.

    I expected to have horror stories today after running 4 dungeons as AST last night but the only one that was bad was main scenario roulette. The tanks were just clueless about where to go. In Dusk Vigil the paladin was doing really large pulls but was good with cooldowns so it was stressful but not a nightmare.
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    Nekotee's Avatar
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    Character
    Akihiko Hoshie
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Running Alexander 1 (not the savage)

    Me (SCH) and my FC/Static co-heal WHM
    We went to get some Eso and random loot... I let him solo heal while I buff/DPS
    Because... when you run some savage, you know that the WHM can almost solo heal the normal mode XD

    We both noticed that our DPS were... a bit slow...
    First set of Missile, one wasn't taken care of... ok nevermind, I laught while hearing my partner insulting our DPS
    Second set of Missile, one wasn't taken car of... Oh damn 2 heal reduction... I help healing
    Third set of Missile, both missile explode...
    => 4 stack of heal reduction... at this point both cure/physic were doing 0 healing

    So I just flip table and laught while my WHM partner was more than insulting our DPS XD

    ...

    that was fun, but we NEVER down the boss with this group...
    Not enough DPS and too much missile or mechanic forgotten...
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    Yukariko's Avatar
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    Viola Frost'yukari
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 60
    ravana ex, the big move after the adds
    adlo crits and I spread that lovely 6k shield to the entire raid.
    then at the last second a much weaker nocturnal sect astro shield overrides it
    and I die a little inside as the whole raid takes 60-70% damage.
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  6. #6
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Yukariko View Post
    ravana ex, the big move after the adds
    adlo crits and I spread that lovely 6k shield to the entire raid.
    then at the last second a much weaker nocturnal sect astro shield overrides it
    and I die a little inside as the whole raid takes 60-70% damage.
    This begs the question of why the AST was in Noct with a SCH partner.

    Even if it were an honest mistake ("oops, forgot to change Sect"), how stupid do you have to be to overwrite a Deployed Adlo?
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    SummonerSenah's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Senah Kha
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    I did a run of Qarn normal as an astrologian with a paladin wearing all i90 left side and a bunch of random crap on the right side of various levels. I died to Final Sting a few times because he couldn't hold hate. We also wiped on the final boss a few times because no one was picking up the adds. It was a very frustrating run.
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    Jamillion's Avatar
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    Calypso Celeste
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    Not my own story but I was DPSing for it. I queued with a friend who was healing and got a tank who literally never used an aggro generating skill for the entire dungeon run. If myself and the other dps weren't so overgeared for the content we would have never made it. We were in Qarn HM with a lvl 52 Warrior. Thank god he had defiance on. He even had the nerve to mark targets and still couldn't keep hate on them (he exclusively used SP combo) not to mention my buddy would pull half the pack with every heal.
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    Raji_Lev's Avatar
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    Raji Skybrand
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    Leviathan
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    Scholar Lv 60
    So, I've been leveling my WHM lately (pushing for all three healers at 60), and I've been experiencing this really weird glitch in Leveling Duty Roulette.

    I queue up as a healer, but when I get into the dungeon, it puts me in the TANK slot for some odd reason. And, I mean, I still have the healer icon next to my name in the party list, and we still get 2 DPSes and all, but I'm still tanking, AND healing.

    I dunno, anyone else experienced this bug?
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    Last edited by Raji_Lev; 09-09-2015 at 01:25 AM. Reason: Typo fixes
    Forget about Wolves' Den, or Frontlines, or hell, even The Feast - if you want real PVP action in this game, sell stuff on the market boards!

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    Saseal's Avatar
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    Saseal Korei
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Raji_Lev View Post
    So, I've been leveling my WHM lately (pushing for all three healers at 60), and I've been experiencing this really weird glitch in Leveling Duty Roulette.

    I queue up as a healer, but when I get into the dungeon, it puts me in the TANK slot for some odd reason. And, I mean, I still have the healer icon next to my name in the party list, and we still get 2 DPSes and all, but I'm still tanking, AND healing.

    I dunno, anyone else experienced this bug?
    The 'glitch' is caused by lack of good tanks in DF.
    This glitch will persist... fooorrreeevveeerrrrr.....
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