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  1. #1
    Player
    Mirakumi's Avatar
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    Lady Zelda
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 92
    I don't know if this is Healer Horror or Healer win. However I guess it could work both ways.

    Today went into Titan X where group started freaking out when my buddy and I joined. "Oh Gosh 2 SCHs!" Claimed it could not be done. One tank even went as far to jump off twice because he didn't realize they queued two schs and said it would be impossible.
    Obviously it shows how ignorant some people are. 2 SCH with 2 EOS working on cooldowns. (Both my friend and I are on vent. I was bubbling Stomps and he was on Jump Bubbles.) After a bunch of QQs they gave it a go - and guess what - we won.

    People do know that it is possible to 2 SCH coil 1-5 right? >.> Sigh.
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    SulwynCaliope's Avatar
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    Sulwyn Caliope
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    Tonberry
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Mirakumi View Post
    I don't know if this is Healer Horror or Healer win. However I guess it could work both ways.

    Today went into Titan X where group started freaking out when my buddy and I joined. "Oh Gosh 2 SCHs!" Claimed it could not be done. One tank even went as far to jump off twice because he didn't realize they queued two schs and said it would be impossible.
    Obviously it shows how ignorant some people are. 2 SCH with 2 EOS working with on cooldowns. (Both my friend and I are on vent. I was bubbling Stomps and he was on Jump Bubbles.) After a bunch of QQs they gave it a go - and guess what - we won.

    People do know that it is possible to 2 SCH coil 1-5 right? >.> Sigh.
    Done T1 and T4 with 2 schs recently. (Me and a pugged SCH :P) From personal experience, I can tell you that 2 SCHs sucking together is a complete myth. On my first T4 clear yesterday,my friend gave in and pugged an SCH because we couldn't find a WHM. We took second dread into enrage. By cycling through our rouses + whispering dawn and Fey illuminations, we healed through T4 enrage. The dread was practically at full health when enrage started and the whole party was full health with our MP at a healthy rate by the time we finished. So yes it's very doable.

    My dual SCH T1 experience was VERY pleasant. Since there's practically no AoE damage in that turn, I actually think dual SCH might be better on that turn that WHM/ SCH combo. Shorter E4E cool downs and super virus debuffs on both snakes at practically all times. Plus, between me and the other SCH, there's 6 lustrates for those oh shit moments on either tank. Further more, fairies healing any damage to DPS which means that as healers we can focus on tanks only.

    PS: Love your IGN. :P Go Sailor Senshi!!!
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    EmeraldAres's Avatar
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    Emerald Ares
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 80

    "First Impression" Healing Horror

    As many of you well know, Pharos Sirius can either be a pleasant run if everyone knows what to do (or is willing to learn from others) or the worst hell spawn dungeon ever conceived if even 1 or 2 players are not pulling their weight or otherwise ignoring mechanics. I have started to dread seeing this instance in roulette because I can feel helpless on Siren if I have to constantly deal with lunatic voice layered on top of other mistakes made by the party.

    Even so, I try to have the attitude that I must take what I get when I select roulette and will not drop unless the group has given up. I'm the type of healer that will sit there and help people try to do fights they haven't figured out yet because I enjoy getting people through bosses that are difficult for them and making runs that are otherwise impossible work. I have never initiated a vote to kick on anyone, and I have only agreed to one vote abandon because I was in a group that was repeatedly dying to Siren well before she was close to death herself and the others had enough. My point is, I will work with people if they are willing to work with me.

    My Achilles Heel, however, is jerks. You put me together with someone who is nasty to the group and I will go from being a healer who will happily time out of an AK with inexperienced members to a person with no empathy whatsoever.

    I had a Pharos Sirius like this today. It's common for people to ditch at the beginning of this dungeon, and I will sometimes bow out if nobody else that is left seems happy to run it, but this Warrior is special. After a couple of dps ninja dropped while the bubble was still over us at the beginning, I made some sort of off handed comment about how it was amusing to watch people give up on this instance so quickly. Big mistake, because as I have come to learn people will often judge you based on first impressions.

    Warrior charges ahead and pulls the first three packs, and I honestly don't know what possessed him to do this. Did he think he could speed run this like WP? Was he trying to torment me? I don't know. Whatever the reason I could not keep up with that much damage, especially when random mobs were spraying all over the dps and I wasn't expecting him to treat this place like WP. We wipe messily.

    But it doesn't end there. I wish it had ended there. Most people, when confronted with a wipe like this, take a step back and try to evaluate what they did wrong. Not this guy. As I'm ressing behind him, he goes and does it again. I have 1k or so mana at that moment. Nobody has protect or stoneskin. If it didn't work the first time, it wasn't going to work this time for sure. So I do something that I almost never do to anyone, the last resort of a scorned healer: I stand there and watch them all die.

    As we bite the dust again (summoner dragged mobs to me and I ate it too, which was probably justified), they all tear into me for not healing them. First of all, I have never seen anyone try to speed run Pharos Sirius before. Who does that? Many of the trash mobs are designed with mechanics that are meant to punish groups who aren't focusing or stunning certain mobs. Thankfully the warrior leaves before heaping on too much abuse, and the dps decide to wait for vote abandon because they think I'm a troll now. I leave the party since I feel like a complete jerk and I am just disgusted with the whole thing.

    People seem to just lose it in Pharos Sirius sometimes. I myself don't like Siren, and I dread groups where people ignore the mechanics on the bosses and leave me to tank legions of adds. I often regret unlocking this place. As I have previously stated, this place is very simple if the whole group follows the mechanics and plays well. It can be really frustrating sometimes, though. I dunno.

    I guess the major thing that people should take away from this is be very careful about the first impression you make. Maybe the warrior thought I was an asshole and decided to troll me. Perhaps the group would have been less inclined to blame me for the Warrior's incompetent pulling if I had only said "Hello" like I usually did or kept my mouth shut. After all, they don't know me. I'm just glad that experiences like this are usually rare in 4 man dungeon runs. Remember, make a good first impression and be friendly. If you can't be, excuse yourself before things get worse.
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    Kallale's Avatar
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    Faustigent Clouett
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by EmeraldAres View Post
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    Nah, you're fine. This happened to my wife in WP the other day. It sounds like the same guy lol. She said at the beginning of the run that she couldn't heal a speed run. But he tried anyway... 3 times and quit. Then we got a good tank.
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    Mirakumi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SulwynCaliope View Post
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    Agreed. 100% I just wish more people were aware of it. ^^

    PS: Thanks - <3 ! Long time fan lol
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    Shmunkster's Avatar
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    Meowla Caith'lan
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    Phoenix
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Horror Story - and also an apology to anyone in my run!

    I got CM in Duty Roulette. Sweet. I like it, and it aint too bad.
    All going fine. No deaths, only 2 stress momments (it can sometimes get messy in there!)
    Final battle. Horror.

    My controller is having a wierd attack (yes, I am on PS). I was moving to the side to position, and my character does a freaky little dance. Pulls the boss. Sorry!
    Its ok, everyone is there, we crack on. I run to the middle, since I got the agrro....tanks come to me to sort it out.

    Aggro gone. Phew...time to move. Wait. Why am I stuck. I cast. I cant move. I just tand there, taking it in the face. Why cant i move? Oh. Sh1t. cant even cast now. WTF?
    Tank is on chat: What?! you are useless
    Me (in my head): Yeah, man, I know...

    Finally, realise controller is dead. Have to swap it out. Faff bout, get totally twatted by whatsherface.

    Eventually, back in control. All good. But have to spam heal to sort everyone out - Scholar with me has done really well to keep it going whilst I've been a dick.
    I get add aggro. I die. I end the final 1 min on my back.

    Maaan. Sorry to anyone in that run. And sorry to my pride
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    Player Kiyyto's Avatar
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    Quint Thriceheart
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    It happens, my controller has died mid fight too and the team has wiped.

    But you know what?

    SO WHAT.

    Anyone that gives you crap for 1 wipe is an ahole.
    Even 3x wipes, if you are trying and polite, you don't take any crap from them. You've got a hard job and they are lucky to have you there trying to do it.
    Evidenced by the fact that any mage can que for anything in about 3 seconds flat. Few want to do it, but everyone is ready to criticize at the drop of a hat.
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    Aldo Von'alexandros
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    lol, i just have an horror story, well, not that much...

    i joined this new static coil group so we did turn 1 at first try, then summoner changed to sch to do t2 for enrage, well, everything going well until tank dies on the boss after ADS then every one starts to run, im like -take it easy, lb 2 almost full- I adl my self and stoneskin then I use the lb, but my group was like -oh! well, wipe, lets do this again- then they notice they revive and im just hearing on mumble -oh! shit, kill it kill it- and the horror was that when we manage to survive that and kill that thing, they thanked the other sch :O, i was like whaaaaaat???? it was me xD, i wish i have recorded all those horror and epic moments where healers were the heroes
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    Kinseykinz's Avatar
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    Isagael Rose
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    Sagittarius
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AldoVonAlexandros View Post
    ...then they notice they revive and im just hearing on mumble -oh! shit, kill it kill it- and the horror was that when we manage to survive that and kill that thing, they thanked the other sch :O, i was like whaaaaaat???? it was me xD, i wish i have recorded all those horror and epic moments where healers were the heroes
    My team has on several occasions mistaken my well-timed WHM heals (typically cure II's btw) as my SCH partners Fairy heals...

    They will be on teamspeak and say 'thanks Red's Fairy!' ...I'm so invisible in the back they notice SCH>Fairy.........>WHM
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    Being slashed repeatedly by iron giants running wild during King Behemoth. Felt like a run which belonged in a horror movie
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