Post Your Healing Horror Stories.

[Meimi_chan]

Guess after clearing t13 a lot of time to get that dreadwyrm gear, doesn't make you a better person =_=;
Kinda ruining my image about pro ppl having dreadwyrm gears are good, but I guess not everyone.

That's the main reason I don't want to tank post 50 dungeons, I have dreadwyrm gear for my tank because in my static everyone that plays tank has the gear already, so instead of letting it fall on the floor the other people that have tank gets it... If I were to tank some dungeon I would probably be a loltank or something... better I stick to dps or healing xD

[MXMoondoggie]

Guess after clearing t13 a lot of time to get that dreadwyrm gear, doesn't make you a better person =_=;
Kinda ruining my image about pro ppl having dreadwyrm gears are good, but I guess not everyone.

Seen this loads lately i think since it became easier to carry in final coil loads more carry groups popped up and prices went down so everyone and his Mother have some Dreadwyrm if they have the Gil to pay for it. Seems all i encounter in EXDR or random DF EX Primal runs lately are these entitled Tanks with some Dreadwyrm who are awful and when you call them out they start inspecting you like "Oh nice raid gear lololol" and the sad thing is a lot of people in DF think gear = good so they go along with whatever that Tank is saying even if things are their fault.

Best Tank i ever encountered in EXDR was barely over the minimum ilvl for it but they were a beast. Hardly took damage and even going all out with Holy i could not pull aggro off them and nor could a BLM or heavily geared NIN. It puts a lot in perspective when some max geared Tank loses aggro and starts calling everyone else noobs.

[technole]

Seen this loads lately i think since it became easier to carry in final coil loads more carry groups popped up and prices went down so everyone and his Mother have some Dreadwyrm if they have the Gil to pay for it. Seems all i encounter in EXDR or random DF EX Primal runs lately are these entitled Tanks with some Dreadwyrm who are awful and when you call them out they start inspecting you like "Oh nice raid gear lololol" and the sad thing is a lot of people in DF think gear = good so they go along with whatever that Tank is saying even if things are their fault.

Probably an alt tank job that doesn't play their tank well. It's the same with other jobs. I wouldn't say carry, as it's not hard to get alt job gear compared to when FCoB was loot-locked weekly.

Most of the time you can probably tell it's not a main if they have disparate ilvl gear present. Like seen an i100 waist and arms but have the i130 dread chest. Or this subpar WHM in WoD with the i130 dread chest but using a i110 Yagrush, and how surprised they were on how much MP holy costs, lol.

Like I have a full Dreadwyrm set for my WAR, yet it's not my main but I'm not afraid of being judged based on inspection and that it is because I know I can tank.

[elemental10]

Seen this loads lately i think since it became easier to carry in final coil loads more carry groups popped up and prices went down so everyone and his Mother have some Dreadwyrm if they have the Gil to pay for it. Seems all i encounter in EXDR or random DF EX Primal runs lately are these entitled Tanks with some Dreadwyrm who are awful and when you call them out they start inspecting you like "Oh nice raid gear lololol" and the sad thing is a lot of people in DF think gear = good so they go along with whatever that Tank is saying even if things are their fault.

Best Tank i ever encountered in EXDR was barely over the minimum ilvl for it but they were a beast. Hardly took damage and even going all out with Holy i could not pull aggro off them and nor could a BLM or heavily geared NIN. It puts a lot in perspective when some max geared Tank loses aggro and starts calling everyone else noobs.

Not always with Tank either, but every class.

If I see you in Dreadwyrm the first thing that comes up to my head is the word "Elitist" honestly. I know, I know that some of you had cleared it yourself and are not elitists at all but the impression I got from those full set Dreadwyrm? Not very pleasant.

Considering you have cleared all of coils and gone through the hardest content, why can't you be patient when a party wipes? Because noobs?

Guess what? You were also once a noob and screwed up hard.

/end of rant

[technole]

Considering you have cleared all of coils and gone through the hardest content, why can't you be patient when a party wipes? Because noobs?

I'm actually quite patient on Duty Finder wipes, as usually people know what the issue(s) were or you got people seeing the content for the first time even if they read/watched up on it.

I was doing Titan EX in DF a few weeks ago for the fun of it and it took a few wipes to get it cleared. After each one I mentioned some simple feedback without emotion. Like we needed the healer gaol broken as soon as the knockback occurs because we kept dying to that, killing the adds on the east side to avoid sludge mess, then another how some people should "get inside" the dodge bomb during the X/+ pattern to avoid the lethal damage. There wasn't much I can really say about not falling off aside from being attentive and being at the right place, people generally know how that works. But every now and then you get some hasty person saying how bad someone is at dodging or what not, I ignore it.

Now compare this to when I hosted Titan EX farm parties for ponies, in which I believe the tolerance for mistakes is much lower because it is expected everyone has the content on the "I got this!" level. Sure, crap happens sometimes and that is ok even with a full competent party but overall the runs are clears without full wipes.

[Saseal]

I think Technole was referring to Dreadwyrm gear correlated to player skill, rather than the gear's stats (IE, the assumption that if you have Dreadwyrm gear, then you're an awesome [insertclasshere] by player's skill).
I didn't think about if the BLM may have flared before hate was secured... which could be a problem - but if the tank was losing mobs to one flare because he wasn't establishing hate properly - or even fighting for it - then that is a different problem. x.x
Like Technole also mentioned - he went in again with a lesser-geared tank that was able to handle hate better - with assumption that they had less experience as someone in Dreadwyrm gear (again, it's possible they don't main tank and just was just able to gear their tank class). So either there was some other reason or the first tank wasn't dealing with aggro as well as his lesser geared counterpart (regardless of ilvl sync). It's possible he wasn't keeping hate levels up on all the mobs, and instead focusing on one or a few of the mob (or just hadn't cycled through all yet) - and the BLM's AoEs tore the rest off.

[Arkenne]

Hrm... yea, I've got those tanks as well...

Speaking of entitled bad Tanks, yesterday I went to the Ex roulette and since I was a bit laggy, yup, BLM time!!
My BLM heals more than my healers anyway.

So, got into Wanderer's Palace HM and most of the dun was going alright, noticed the tank was being a bit inconsistent with their pulls. Not even once I failed to get one of them munching on my face after the first Flare =-= ... well, limited myself to only one, since I can do up to 4 in a row... buuut no.

Then as we go advancing, we manage to down the 2nd boss, and then Tank decides to run ahead without waiting for buffs, again... you know, this part were there are 2 sets of mamool ja (I think thats how they are called) right before the poison zone that ends at a prison place after a sharp turn, right? If you arent close enough to the tank by then healing the peak damage can become an issue. Weeeeell, turns out our healer was like 50 meters behind D:

So they kind of didnt make it in time and all the tank says once all our innards are decorating the floor is "wtf". Whaaaatever, we come back to the starting point healer starts casting protect, TANK RUNS AWAY WOOO... soooo no stoneskin I guess /shrug...

We finally down everything even the final boss, to which our healer, being a first timer as I noticed, lagged behind and got stunned a few times because BIG CONE, no wipes at it or deaths even so it was an acceptable fight, but then the Tank comes out saying "healer you suck" and "be a slave healer" and stuff... geez =-=

We just told the healer "and thats an example of a terrible tank".
I mean... every single mob was munching my face after 1 Flare and we didnt die at anything but that one rushed up pull the tank did going too far ahead... geez... humans :/

[Ereavin]

Snip

Yeah, ah wellz. Just hope I won't meet player like that in my ex roulletes in the future.

Snip. (Tank running away while buffing)

This. Just this.
Impatient much..*le sigh*

[Cynfael]

*anecdote about poor tank behavior*

I'm starting to think that the less toxic version of this sort of tank truly doesn't understand that they should be making efforts to work with the party.

A few weeks ago I queued up for Expert as WHM. As soon as we all pop in, the DF tank looks at my Dreadwyrm Cane WHM and exclaims "omg yes the healer has Final Witness, they won't suck." I prepared myself for some shenanigans.

The tank actually wasn't anywhere close to bad, but he took a lot of risks that could easily have gotten him killed if I hadn't been prepared to handle things. This kind of tank has high expectations that the healer should be good enough to enable them to survive damned near anything and sometimes forgets that even a "good" healer might not be on the same page with them, so perhaps pulling multiple rooms without HG/Holmgang and stopping at half HP when the WHM has both Shroud and Bene on cooldown might create a situation that an average-geared healer prepared to do a dungeon at an average pace would be unable to manage.

[VanilleFang]

My BLM heals more than my healers anyway.

???

I'm confused by this, honestly.