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    Player
    Nigel's Avatar
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    Jhon Eliwood
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    Phoenix
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    Gladiator Lv 29
    Here's my story. im a TANK (GLD) and i get the aggro of EVERYTHING I fight (including adds).I don't know much about the cards class but, do they have a hard time keeping up with healing? Because everytime one of them is in the party they sometimes stop healing me and start focusing on attacking. So here i am spaming psychic keeping myself from dying and fucking the team over, and then they suddenly start healing again. This happend with 3 card users so far. Is there a trick to their spells or something?
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    Bamboofox's Avatar
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    Rio D'khan
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nigel View Post
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    If you're properly geared and use your cooldowns, you (as a tank) are not hard to heal, especially in low level dungeons. Healers who are comfortable with the rate of your HP loss will typically throw out damage spells to make the run go faster. You shouldn't be danger of dying. In fact, AST (card users) have a healing spell that is more powerful the lower your health, so they are probably just taking advantage of that.

    If you actually do die, that's something to discuss with your healer.
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    Noxifer's Avatar
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    C'alih Tia
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Nigel View Post
    So here i am spaming psychic keeping myself from dying and fucking the team over, and then they suddenly start healing again. This happend with 3 card users so far. Is there a trick to their spells or something?
    Haven't played that job that much, barely picked it up, but I do know that one of their better healing spells has higher potency the less HP the recipient has left. So some of them will probably hold out for as long as they dare before bringing you back to life. That doesn't mean those particular healers were skilled enough to pull that off -- they could just as well have tunnelvisioned, or 'heard' about how AST is 'supposed' to heal and attempting to emulate that.
    Other than that, though, they are (as far as I know) slightly weaker when it comes to healing, something that's supposedly compensated with their card utility... but until you're good at it (which takes longer than the other two healer jobs, according to those friends I have who play it) it can be tricky to have time to use cards without falling behind on the healing. And since they start at level 30, and you're still below that level, your chances of running into new ASTs are quite high.
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    WolfKid's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Evan White
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 70
    I remember a while ago I DF Brayflox normal, DPSing at the time, with a SCH healing for the first time. I KNOW it was their first time, cause during the first 2 or 3 trash pulls, they were constantly healing themselves. This went down with the tank and SCH, "what are you doing, your supposed to be healing me, not yourself at full health" "How exaclty do i heal you?" "are you serious?" I couldn't help but laugh.
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    Rhyku's Avatar
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    Character
    Estinien Wyrmblood
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by WolfKid View Post
    I remember a while ago I DF Brayflox normal, DPSing at the time, with a SCH healing for the first time. I KNOW it was their first time, cause during the first 2 or 3 trash pulls, they were constantly healing themselves. This went down with the tank and SCH, "what are you doing, your supposed to be healing me, not yourself at full health" "How exaclty do i heal you?" "are you serious?" I couldn't help but laugh.
    Shoulda told the SCH to stick to SMN instead xD

    That being said, I remembered my first time healing as a noobie WHM. I remembered I hate manually clicking on each party member just to heal.
    Then I found the magic of macro and < mo > commands.....
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    Igneel's Avatar
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    Character
    Solstice Valentine
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 56

    Where do I start?

    Hmm, I have plenty of them, but the one that stood out the most to me, was probably this recent run on Brayflox I just did, just the worst case of laziness I've ever seen. We have a little over 40mins left, we're at the last boss and they're complaining that we've wasted too much time and wanted to abandon the duty, not to mention how the tank got a pissing attitude and sat in the boss room doing nothing because we didn't abandon the duty like he wanted.
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    PirateCat's Avatar
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    Leopold Sidney
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Igneel View Post
    Hmm, I have plenty of them, but the one that stood out the most to me, was probably this recent run on Brayflox I just did, just the worst case of laziness I've ever seen. We have a little over 40mins left, we're at the last boss and they're complaining that we've wasted too much time and wanted to abandon the duty, not to mention how the tank got a pissing attitude and sat in the boss room doing nothing because we didn't abandon the duty like he wanted.
    Was the group wiping to the boss? Or were they actually saying "I think this run took too long so now that we're almost done, let's not actually complete it"? If the latter, then... Wha? Buh? I have no words.
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    Player
    Igneel's Avatar
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    Solstice Valentine
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    Cerberus
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    Conjurer Lv 56
    Quote Originally Posted by PirateCat View Post
    Was the group wiping to the boss? Or were they actually saying "I think this run took too long, so now that we're almost done, let's not actually complete it"? If the latter, then... Wha? Buh? I have no words.
    No, we weren't wiping, we got to the last boss and the tank claimed we'd wastedtoo much time, the only thing that came close was when he and the BLM dies because he just stood there and did nothing at the second boss, and didn't get up even after I raised him so the MCH and I had to beat the boss. We got to the final boss, nothing else went wrong and he said we waisted too much time, even though we had had a little over 40mins left.
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    Peacecow's Avatar
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    Zakarhen Bekazr
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 60

    Poor Guy

    Horror story in the healers point of view
    So I'm lvling my GLD and do DF with party in progress (cause.....you know, someone might be in need of a tank. I think I'm pretty good :P ). So my que pops instantly, I go in to find myself with two things.......A new player message......and that first boss "growling". As I say my hellos and go towards the gate, the healer dies of doom. Okay, so now I know that the "newbie" is not an alt and is actually new. So I ask if the others did any explaining.....nope, so I explain the mechanics, meanwhile one of the DPS play afk(they were there the whole time) while the other DPS /begs(verbally n physically) for him to come back..................nope *sigh*


    damn this word count, n damn this phone for no editing
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    Peacecow's Avatar
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    Zakarhen Bekazr
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 60

    Poor Guy

    *. So we decide to three man it after waiting a good five mins.So the fight starts, everything good cept, timing my CDs with extra carefulness (is there even such a word? lol), starting with Convalescence to help with that extra regeneration tick.....nope, no regen. OK so we'll manage without it. Bees die quick enough with one needing a stun before getting downed. Repeat until third doom, typically healer dies(as do we all the first time, and every other time afterwards) and we wipe. Healer apologizes, DPS n I say no biggie "if at first you don't succeed, try try again".
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