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    MBTL90's Avatar
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    Kamahl Stormblessed
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 80

    Warrior as off tanks

    I think that regardless of what you have as a main tank, each raid group should use a warrior as an offtank. Not because they are inferior (I have no clue as to if they are good/bad as main tanks, being a paladin and all), but because in single mob situations, from what I can tell, warriors can actually put out decent dps when out of tank stance. On my paladin I feel like I hit bosses like a wet noodle in sword oath when I'm not tanking. Outside of being a stunbot on hm ifrit, I think having at least one warrior in the raid will be hugely beneficial.

    Thoughts/comments?
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    Rossy Vallant
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    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 19
    I Main a warrior and i do agree here. If there is need for two tanks and the other is a PLD, then i will let him do his thing till i need to step in to give him a break. I can tank alone perfectly fine, but if theres a PLD they should be "Main Tank" only for the reason that Warriors can do dmg when 2 tanks are not necessary. Lets face it a PLD not tanking is more or less worthless.
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    Tilpax Morpax
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    Phoenix
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Your post makes sense but it does mean that Paladins will be in less demand than warriors in raids if you only need to bring one Paladin. Looks like I'd better level for a Warrior as well as a Paladin.
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    Bloodoath Loyalty
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    Midgardsormr
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    Marauder Lv 19
    This is useful and I agree,I will definitely take this and apply it to my game play.
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    If a DPS pulls aggro off of me, which rarely happens, I let them use the best and most universal threat drop in any MMO: Death.

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    Kal El
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Problem with a WAR DPSing is that they tend to take all the hate with their most power rotations.

    You'd have to have a really good PLD that knows when to use Provoke to keep up with hate build up.

    Good thing is that the healers shouldn't be getting any hate.
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    Ralkon Kon'lai
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    Shiva
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    Marauder Lv 60
    I sense a rebalancing coming soon to PLD, as it is now PLD's are imba on 90% of the circumstances. WAR is just better in all aspects, more DPS, more HP, better at holding multiple aggro.
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    Mishka Liadain
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    Exodus
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    WAR is more DPS, more HP, better at *AOE aggro.

    ...but doesn't the pally still take less damage on single target over the course of long fights? (I'm asking not stating.. I don't know the current theory-crafting)
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    Ralkon Kon'lai
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    Shiva
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Myrthele View Post
    WAR is more DPS, more HP, better at *AOE aggro.

    ...but doesn't the pally still take less damage on single target over the course of long fights? (I'm asking not stating.. I don't know the current theory-crafting)
    Yes but the difference is miniscule compared to the disadvantages. Thats why i said PLD needs rebalancing.
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    Kitru Kitera
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    Cactuar
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Myrthele View Post
    ...but doesn't the pally still take less damage on single target over the course of long fights?
    PAL takes less damage, but the two require a similar level of healing thanks to the Mara self heals.

    As to whether there needs to be some degree of rebalancing, I'm not entirely sure. I haven't done any kind of side-by-side comparison (though every healer I run with tells me that I'm infinitely better than the PALs they've run with, though that might just be a level and/or player thing).
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    Alwryn Tourn
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 60
    No offense, but the lot of you have no idea what you're talking about.

    Level and experience both jobs in actual endgame content, all of it, before you make such bold claims.
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