We need more ways to make gold in this game.

[Aketo]

Bleeding gil from other players while people still have gil while leveling does not make for profit it just takes and redistributes wealth while taking a cut that takes even more out by taxes and even then after a player hits 50 it will become very apparent unless they are extremely undergeared how bad things are.

Sadly the only way to make money is to roll a alt take week+ of time and get it to 1-50 in crap gear and transfer that money to your main to feed it and delete that alt and rinse and repeat it over and over since that seem to be the only sure way to make new gil...which is a poor and even back words way to make gil to keep getting new gil in the economy even.

Still sadly that isn't a solution nor is it a recommended way to get gil, but then again bleeding you fellow player base isn't either as it will only go so far until even that will not even feed your coffers.

[Aketo]

I've found the most efficient way to go positive is to run into high level FATE AoE tagging monsters naked with only a weapon on that has a low repair cost. Positive Seals, Positive Gil, Positive Repairs.

Any other way people have said so far takes more durability than it gives back in gil.

I would whole hearty agree, sadly that is about the only way right now that or wear gear from level 20 with weapon that is cheap to repair in the 40+, but still naked with weapon might be about the only way and that speaks volumes about how dire the situation is.

[Alemana]

I actually had a look at the auction house system the other night. I saw some antelope horns I needed and didn't particularly feel like farming. Saw 2 up for 1970 gil - great I thought. Go to click buy and see the message that it's going to cost me 2000+ gil due to tax. Like really? So when items start rising to the millions once a stable economy has developed, a 1million gil item is actually gonna run me an extra 50k on top? Ridiculous.

Money certainly isn't hard to come by but it doesn't come by in huge chunks like that.

[Felis]

I actually had a look at the auction house system the other night. I saw some antelope horns I needed and didn't particularly feel like farming. Saw 2 up for 1970 gil - great I thought. Go to click buy and see the message that it's going to cost me 2000+ gil due to tax. Like really?

The buyer only get taxes if the retainer he buy from is in another city. See it as a delivery cost. If you don't like it, go to the city the retainer is.

[Krystal_Storm]

I want to see the black market expanded to be cross server. It would to help balance out costs because there would be a hell of alot more people vying to sell their items. The market on Behemoth server is stingy at best and the only thing reasonably priced is usually very low grade items that i could acquire with my eyes closed. I currently really want high quality morbol vines and high quality formic acid in vast abundance and it is getting annoying waiting for people to come along that want to sell for a reasonable price.

Hell you sell them at 200 gil each and you would make a killing from me but no they want 1000-2000 gil each 70% of the time. -.- There is many other examples of this but i am not going to bother mentioning. I am only just starting to recover from my gil bankruptcy and i am going to be soooo stingy from now on that i will give Moneybanks (Spyro) a run for his money. : D SE if you start offering gil packages for real money consider myself your cash cow. lol

[Kalam]

Definitely something needs to be done. I'm only 34 but can tell the money I get from allagan pieces will only last so long.

[mosov]

Yes, i`ve been trying harder to get money, but no matter how, i`m very poor.

[nimrod]

Guess what dailies in 2.1 will GIve u in return... i wonder what that couLd be...

[Aixa]

You guys just keep arguing between yourselves and ignore when I make a valid point against it.

First of all all shards are lv1 and can be gotten naked with the lv1 tool so in terms of repair cost these should be ignored. HQ turnins for lv45 leves are worth 2000-4000 gil depending on how many items are required. Giving 12000-24000 gil a day with negligible repairs for the synths. Even with the material gathering repairs included the result is a lot positive gil. Many of these leves are very simple and require around 15 hits on gathering and around 5 synthesis. Gatherers also get gil positive leves. This gil bleeds onto the battle classes as they interact with the market selling things they need (like items dropped from monsters or materia).

Battle classes can further compound the speed which they can get the minted crafter/gatherer gil by wearing sacrificial gear that wont need to be repaired much since the goal is to turn it into materia and sell said materia.

[Aixa]

Please start on the post previous to this one.

I reiterate, the repairs for these leves are FAR lower than the gil being taken, and their being done by people who love crafting and gathering all the time. Battle classes don't need to go gil positive because the crafters do. You just need to get the gil from them.

Being able to make wealth to buy things on the market is gonna lead to massive inflation which has nothing to do with deflation but is what some people are asking for. I do not believe the whole economy is in deflation, just the battle classes which can easily sell stuff to the non battle classes for gil. (Like using dungeon currency to buy crafting materials, materia from sacrificial gear while fighting or dropped materials). Dont use teleport unless its cheaper than the airship. Waste of gil, use choco porters.

Please give the economy more time to settle before making a huge fuss about it. Making hasty changes before things settle is the way more than one game has gotten broken.