We need more ways to make gold in this game.

[HealBus]

This thread shows me how fail education is in regards to teaching people basic reading comprehension. Also the amount of economic illiteracy displayed also makes me fear for the future.

EDIT: A lot of MMO teams have economists on them, I remember reading somewhere that FFXIV doesn't.

[StrangerousDangerous]

I understand inflation.

The way it is now is good. You want restricted money printing. In this case magically conjured GIL is money printing.

Some things still will be over priced, but the majority of stuff, especially stuff people actually want to sell, will just be at a lower and more obtainable price for most.

You start adding in easy GIL systems into the game and prices will skyrocket. So instead of having to farm GIL for a week to get something rare on the market youll have to farm months or use a GIL trader.

There are enough ways to make GIL in the game as it is, you can play the market and funnel some of that to you.

[HealBus]

I understand inflation.

The way it is now is good. You want restricted money printing. In this case magically conjured GIL is money printing.

Some things still will be over priced, but the majority of stuff, especially stuff people actually want to sell, will just be at a lower and more obtainable price for most.

You start adding in easy GIL systems into the game and prices will skyrocket. So instead of having to farm GIL for a week to get something rare on the market youll have to farm months or use a GIL trader.

There are enough ways to make GIL in the game as it is, you can play the market and funnel some of that to you.

Limited inflation is good. Deflation is terrible.

[Swordphobic]

There are a few positive gil sources I can identify:
1) Tradecraft leves: Specially when you are overleveled and are sure to make an HQ item grants some very easy gil (I suspect gil farmers could be using these)
2) Lower level dungeon running: That's right, queue up to help a noob and you can get some fast allagan pieces for almost no repair cost.
3) Fate farming in crafted whites: Great for personal economy (spiritbond) and generates more money than you spend.

And that's it, those look like the few sustained gil sources

[Airas]

There are a few positive gil sources I can identify:
1) Tradecraft leves: Specially when you are overleveled and are sure to make an HQ item grants some very easy gil (I suspect gil farmers could be using these)
2) Lower level dungeon running: That's right, queue up to help a noob and you can get some fast allagan pieces for almost no repair cost.
3) Fate farming in crafted whites: Great for personal economy (spiritbond) and generates more money than you spend.

And that's it, those look like the few sustained gil sources

But I would have to work "hard" for those! I want my GIL NOW!

[Mornlieth]

Well this thread is way more heavy than I can deal with today

[Lockisezmode]

snipped for submission

So you have no idea what you are talking about. Tradeleves if you are overleveled for them make you very little if anything at all once you tak into account the gil/time you have to spend to acquire the items, the repair costs for making the items and the time required to farm that enough to become profitable. Same the same exact problem exists with your second and third examples as well. You obviously have no idea about endgame if you think any of what you are stating is positive gil flow. I would encourage you to research some more before you make such massively ignorant statements but that probably won't happen.

[Fuz]

I agree.
This is really a huge problem.
Didn't looked like it before hitting 50... but now, I really have no idea how to make money, and money sinks are taking their tolls.
In time I'll be broke, and I think it will be time to look for another MMO.

[Talyn]

I suspect most players having gil problems are the same ones who port EVERYWHERE all the time. Porting is "luxury" travel. You can take favored ports and spend less than 5 minutes riding a chocobo to get places but people are lazy and spam-port themselves all over the place.

Meanwhile, those of us that have been careful with our income are supposed to be not rewarded because some of you can't budget your money? I'm not shocked by the laziness of these types. I fully expect you want unlimited spending and probably a free house too because you didn't plan to operate in a great economy. You want it easy like other games.

[Shiyo]

Repair costs really just need completely removed, if they didn't exist the economy would be perfect fine.