We need more ways to make gold in this game.

[Luuin]

I can see a large chunk of the population leaving simply because in order to raid you need:

A crafting class to 50
A gathering class to mid 30s
A battle class to 50 (obviously)
Two sets of armor if you plan on farming mats since you don't need to be in your best gear.
Stop teleporting, that cuts in to your repair funds
Keep all crafting and battle armor repaired which cuts in to your repair funds.
Make sure to do your leves everyday or you aren't generating new curreny in the economy and topping off your repair funds

Most people who've played WoW for 9 years are just gonna say "holy hell! all i want to do it raid!"

I personally find the crafting/gathering in this game boring as hell, and if i could help it, I wouldn't do it. At all. Ever.

For people who just wanna craft, they can do that. For people who just wanna raid, they pretty much can't, it's locked behind crafting since you need it to sustain your repair funds.

[Inosaska]

I just noticed this and people are making very bad mistakes putting up there HQ items for dirt cheap while certain quests can give almost triple even double the amount of gil because one person is not paying attention to the leves that are being given in the game. It took me awhile to notice this but it works very well but you have to find the right quests and only to find the items for dirt cheap on the market place because everyone is undercutting each other for no reason at all. You do have to level a crafting class but its very easy if you do exactly what I tell you and you will make a profit instead of losing money and also be leveling a crafting class very easily. I hope what I discovered today gives others some temporary advice until people begin to notice there flaw and correct it.

[Deatheye]

I have to wonder, what was Gil making like in 1.0? Obviously some were able to get to the cap before Realm Reborn launched, but how does it differ now? was it all leves and slow progression through the market? or was Gil easier to come by, or cost less during repairs? The former I'd doubt, but I can't say for sure.

For repairs you could just stand in the City, activating a "I search repair function" any crafter with high enough skill could repair your gear selecting you, you could be afk during this. Dark Matter droped enough in Dungeons, so anyone doing Dungeons had enough of those.
So Repair was a lot cheaper. Leves also gave more Gil as a reward then they do now.
I kinda can understand that SE didn't want to put in so much Gil as they did in V1, but it feels they went to far into the other direction, they didn't jsut make repairs cost more, they made gil harder to get at the same time.

I just noticed this and people are making very bad mistakes putting up there HQ items for dirt cheap while certain quests can give almost triple even double the amount of gil because one person is not paying attention to the leves that are being given in the game. It took me awhile to notice this but it works very well but you have to find the right quests and only to find the items for dirt cheap on the market place because everyone is undercutting each other for no reason at all. You do have to level a crafting class but its very easy if you do exactly what I tell you and you will make a profit instead of losing money and also be leveling a crafting class very easily. I hope what I discovered today gives others some temporary advice until people begin to notice there flaw and correct it.

Doesn't really work I've found some leves too where I could do that. But prieces went up immidiatly cause propably other noticed, it wasn't worth it anymore cause the item started to cost more, also that's totally missing the Point that a lot of plyers just enjoy doing dungeons...
If People get forced to do stuff that they find boring in a game to Support doing what they enjoy, and even Need to spend more time with the boring Thing they will leave...
Totaly contradicts the "this game is also for People with not much time / for the masses"
For me personally this also destroys crafting cause part of what I liked about it was that People neederd my stuff. People buy less and less cause they notice the Money Problem and you get nearlly everything you Need from Quests and duneons, selling stuff to an NPC gives me the Feeling I'm making useless stuff, which for me takes the fun out of crafting.

[Feldt]

What you're saying isn't wrong but what you're predicting is.

You're blind to the crafting/gathering classes. And obviously you're not going to be rich instantly, especially if you're only trying to make money using battle content. You should sell your allagan currency if you're that desperate.

Not everyone is crafter, we need more ways to money and also a way to kick those undercutting #*@&#*&@ in the balls... I am not a crafter, I have no means to properly earn more than couple hard earned gil and when I see prices like XXXk or more on the market my blood boils.

[Merix]

Casual player here with a few hours of play time / day.
I was down to 4k two days ago.
I like the game because it`s not easy.
If I want something, I want to work for it, and it the reward will be sweet.

No one is asking for the game to be easy. We are asking to stop deflation.

[Merix]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...27#post1231027

Confirmation repair costs getting nerfed tomorrow!

[Merix]

bumping the thread

[OldGeezer]

You're logic is laughable. I even outlined a low level item, where the farmed materials sell back to the vendor for more than the completed item does. You have yet to provide any sort of factual basis to your claims.

My logic is sound but your ignorance on gathering and crafting is quite profound. I can gather all the items in western and central thanlan.and for this item with no TP required, I'll take less than 1% damage for making it. Now to fully repair my level 20 gear will be around 850 gill. So I can easily make way more than 40 brass rings to recover the repair cost of making brass rings. So yes, I can make profit on brass rings. I don't need to support your raiding habits. Just because you choose to burn through your money doesn't mean SE has to support your poor spending habits.