We need more ways to make gold in this game.

[Antalus]

I wrote a nice post 1414 characters long but it fails to be submitted.

So I am going just to state that inflation looks worse to me than a gil lack. There are ways to make gil into the game. Even OP admits that leveling new characters does it. Since that it all boils down to wealth distribution between those who are willing to level new characters (or create gil in some other way) and those who do not.

Also, I want to remind that many opinions in the thread are biased, since those who are able to maintain cash positive balance are much less inclined to post their thoughts.

[Catharsis]

Also, I want to remind that many opinions in the thread are biased, since those who are able to maintain cash positive balance are much less inclined to post their thoughts.

Opinions are, by their definition, biased. I have a daily positive cash flow, your ad hominem reasoning isn't going to work here.

It is the nature of opinions that even someone who hasn't reached level 50 yet is still entitled to make a statement on what they believe end-game economics is like. (Just as an aside to your argument, character creation is currently locked on most servers). That doesn't necessarily mean that you're wrong, but it's by no means a good source of credibility. I find if you respect other people's opinions, rather than just dismissing them as "just biased opinions", they will take more kindly to listening to your own.

[MysteryGuest]

You have to realize that eventually there will be more people who have completed the quests than are starting them. Every single person who isn't doing a main quests or quest that gives decent gil rewards is sucking gil out of the economy. That number is GROWING. The gil whirlpool will only get bigger as the servers mature and more people have reached either a stagnant time in questing or finishing it. To say making extra characters will solve it is being naive. There is really no benefit to creating a second character when you can just change your job. To force people to grind the time sinks (character building quests/storyline) just to get extra gil is ludicrous. The problem could be solved just as easily be introducing dynamics that have similar time sinks that are repeatable for them to do on their first character. The economic design is obviously flawed and people here are just wanting square to confirm what they've seen and tell us they are in the process of solving it.

[Merix]

I wrote a nice post 1414 characters long but it fails to be submitted.

So I am going just to state that inflation looks worse to me than a gil lack. There are ways to make gil into the game. Even OP admits that leveling new characters does it. Since that it all boils down to wealth distribution between those who are willing to level new characters (or create gil in some other way) and those who do not.

Also, I want to remind that many opinions in the thread are biased, since those who are able to maintain cash positive balance are much less inclined to post their thoughts.

I hate leveling. It's not fun, i hate gathering, its not fun, i hate crafting, its not fun. A lot of people feel like me. Unless something is done then this game will fail because there will be a mass exodus of people. Do we wait for a 3rd remake or just say the game is a failure?

[Aixa]

Selling materia you build while doing whatever else (including dungeons) you want is also an option to extract gil from the market. As is killing stuff and selling items (and making materia while doing so). What do you find fun anyway? Sounds like you only like a small fraction of the game and want to change everything else other A LOT people like for your convenience. You might then find it fun, but youll create a helluva lot of pissed people over it.

(I still dont think the economy will deflate to an unsustainable level, explained in my previous posts)

[silentwindfr]

i will not go as far than said is a failure, more that the balance in the drop and gil generation is a bit off.
they need to balance it, since some people will get every class to max.
but that means people that will focus on something are left out...

ps: the trouble is most people think they have enough gil, because they get it from the market, sadly the market fund are not infinite, when more player will arrive to the point to get 50 and have finish the main story and all the quest they can get... the gil generation will be bad... if not negative for battleclass.

@Aixa: the market don't generate Gil, like said by people before me, it transfer gil from a player to another player. with the tax fee, the repair of level 50 equipement, this number can't go up, it can only go down.
Gil generate from the leves are limited, from the monster none, from the dungeon, before 45 it's decent, after it's negative.

what op and many have talk about is not gil you can earn, but gil you will add to the server. like said before 45 it's still possible... after... you will not add gil to the server, repair, teleport,.... will make your gil disappear.

[Ahlen]

Remove repair costs completely. Problem solved. Or you know, make repairs the cost of FAILURE, not the cost of DOING THINGS. In GW2 for example you don't lose durability unless you actually die.

[Deusteele]

Reposting from a different thread to increase visibility.

Personal ideas for introducing Gil and limiting deflation.

1. Level 45+ fates have a chance to give 0-2 Allagan Gold pieces to players involved.
2. Every chest in a dungeon will give 1-3 Allagan pieces to all players, respective of the dungeons level range.
3. Double the Gil given by 45+ Leves.
4. Reduce the durability loss for combat actions on gear. No reason that dying should be easier on gear then being in combat.

Most the problems facing the game right now are due to SE's paranoia over RMT and a distinct lack of end game testing. They were quiet on the server issues while working on a solution for that, hopefully they are doing something about this as well.

[Shiyo]

Selling materia you build while doing whatever else (including dungeons) you want is also an option to extract gil from the market. As is killing stuff and selling items (and making materia while doing so). What do you find fun anyway? Sounds like you only like a small fraction of the game and want to change everything else other A LOT people like for your convenience. You might then find it fun, but youll create a helluva lot of pissed people over it.

(I still dont think the economy will deflate to an unsustainable level, explained in my previous posts)

Please save yourself further embarrassment and just stop posting.

[silentwindfr]

the solution for avoid RMT, is not to make gil hard to get... but make it worth nothing... offer and demand.
if the gil are not a trouble, why purchase gil?