We need more ways to make gold in this game.

[Catharsis]

You mentioned one of the Basic Problems yourself;

The standard of "Quickly" I'm using is a comparative one to going out naked and chopping down 5000 random shards to vendor to the nearest NPC for your repair bill. Since you fail to provide any solutions or alternatives to get GC Seals faster than that (which would probably be faster than waiting around for 44 fates to happen), I'm just going to assume you don't actually have a solution and are just carrying on about this because you can't deal with being wrong about the "Repair it yourself" option being completely uneconomical.

Frankly, we'll never agree on this issue because we have entirely different ideas of what constitutes fun, tedium, or a good game. You think that having people farm for 8 hours between repairs or limiting their activity to their daily pittance of leves (which require grinding themselves) is a good decision, and I don't.

[Riviere]

I keep reading posts and some just don't get it.

[Aketo]

From my experience Axia I have no seen any leve, fate or dungeon that has given me more in gil then I put in to do both in costs of repairs and and or mats to make a hq item.

I am legacy and I have try many routes and many ways aside from just the market to make gil.

Aside from farming in crap gear that is easy to repair or fighting naked will be about the only way your going to make a + on gil

That or make a trash alt that you transfer funds after they hit 50, but if I and many of us thought that we could make money at level 50 in normal means we would not be here talking about this issue.

As it stands new gil is so small reward wise that compared to normal wear and tear of playing in gear that you should be playing in at your level that its imbalanced.

I also remember when they use to give out dark matter for repairs or you could gather it as a miner or botanist my only conclusion is they trying to bleed us all dry to kill the game yet again?

[tymora]

I am not too concerned about "lack of gil". It is far easier for SE to add gil into the economy than to take it away.
Queue a Mogbonanza, or some random event that adds X amount of gil.

Besides, any significant $ input will be exploited by RMT. This way, they are forced to play the game as regular people...in other words, it no longer matters if they are RMT or not (other than the incessant shout spams).

[Aketo]

I am not too concerned about "lack of gil". It is far easier for SE to add gil into the economy than to take it away.
Queue a Mogbonanza, or some random event that adds X amount of gil.

Besides, any significant $ input will be exploited by RMT. This way, they are forced to play the game as regular people...in other words, it no longer matters if they are RMT or not (other than the incessant shout spams).

By the time they do what you suggest to will be too late.

I am certain they will do it at some point but they will have lost quite a few players by then due to of all things not being able to play the way they want to due to being broke and having broken gear of all things.

People that can't play to have fun usually quit stated game and move on to something else, hope that is not what SE trying to do but sure as heck looks like that because I can guarantee that people will leave once they hit 50 and start going broke trying to keep their gear from being broken

[Iskander]

RMTs make business in situations like this where there is a significant lack of economic gil influx. When people can longer sustain their characters, they will either leave or resort to buying gil from the RMTs. If SE is able to implement a system with economic gil generation is easier to compensate for the gil sinks, RMTs will have a harder time making bank because gil is more accessible without them. There will be those that give in to temptation because they are either lazy, or just really really bad at managing money. However, RMTs will only get worse the worse the gil deficit gets.

[Lucroarna]

Im level 50 and have almost 600k from selling items. There's enough new players, and enough people doing quests that gold isn't going to disappear. Honestly, I think all of the points being made here are secretly just people being extraordinarily lazy, and asking for FFXIV to be a WoW clone.

[Merix]

By the time they do what you suggest to will be too late.

I am certain they will do it at some point but they will have lost quite a few players by then due to of all things not being able to play the way they want to due to being broke and having broken gear of all things.

The current model is a RMTs dream mmo. This game is currently doing everything it possibly can to encourage RMT.

Unless something is done about the economy soon RMT will be required to play the game.

[Doowie]

Im level 50 and have almost 600k from selling items. There's enough new players, and enough people doing quests that gold isn't going to disappear. Honestly, I think all of the points being made here are secretly just people being extraordinarily lazy, and asking for FFXIV to be a WoW clone.

Another one that misses the whole point of this thread

[Merix]

Im level 50 and have almost 600k from selling items. There's enough new players, and enough people doing quests that gold isn't going to disappear. Honestly, I think all of the points being made here are secretly just people being extraordinarily lazy, and asking for FFXIV to be a WoW clone.

Your signature is extraordinarily accurate.