We need more ways to make gold in this game.

[Artamie]

This argument has a flaw, it counts only for the beginning of new servers, after 2-3Weeks the problem is gone.

U can get your gear repaired by a high level crafter. U only need Darkmatterl V, which u get from your Legion and can by it with Legion Coins (u get them from Fates, turning in Green Gear or from the Legion Hunting Log)
For each item repaired u pay the craftsman 50Gil - so u end up at 500Gil for a full repair. So no more 4000-6000k repairs at that point.
Optionally u can raise your crafting skills and repair your own gear.

This is what I'm thinking too... the gil problem probably occurs when you play the game while ignoring almost half the other classes. Repair used to be a huge deal in 1.0 too but when people made crafter friends it fixed the problem. So yeah I think it's just a waiting game for people to level up crafting to fill the repair demand.

[Joeking]

This was the end of the thread, in case anyone missed it. There are adults being paid to monitor the in-game economy, they are the only ones that have the tools to check on how much gil is leaving and entering the economy. They have have godlike powers to create new sources of gil generation if they need to.

Gold Sellers are amazing! That's who your referring too right..

[TrystWildkey]

This argument has a flaw, it counts only for the beginning of new servers, after 2-3Weeks the problem is gone.

U can get your gear repaired by a high level crafter. U only need Darkmatterl V, which u get from your Legion and can by it with Legion Coins (u get them from Fates, turning in Green Gear or from the Legion Hunting Log)
For each item repaired u pay the craftsman 50Gil - so u end up at 500Gil for a full repair. So no more 4000-6000k repairs at that point.
Optionally u can raise your crafting skills and repair your own gear.

Unfortunately, it seems that they have removed the ability for players to repair other player's gear. I tried repairing my husband's gear the other day, neither one of us could figure out how. If you know how to do this in the current version of the game, please let me know ^^

[MysteryGuest]

You know, there may be on reason for putting in an economic functions that only drain the global economy at first. Let's say the long term of effects of this won't be seen until the first big drop off of new players. So mid to late first year of the game people start to decline and the effects of deflation really start to hit. Who are the only people to be really amassing money at this point? The gil selling companies buying the departing player gil. It would be a brilliant way to kill the gil selling companies early in the game's life cycle. I don't know if I can give Square that much credit on this move, but maybe...

[Kirito]

It requires dark matter 3 which costs 350 gil per peice to repair. Its more expensive than vendor repairs.

The devs actually stopped dark matter 3 from being obtainable from gathering because of the economy, I am wondering why now...

[Inq]

This argument has a flaw, it counts only for the beginning of new servers, after 2-3Weeks the problem is gone.

U can get your gear repaired by a high level crafter. U only need Darkmatterl V, which u get from your Legion and can by it with Legion Coins (u get them from Fates, turning in Green Gear or from the Legion Hunting Log)
For each item repaired u pay the craftsman 50Gil - so u end up at 500Gil for a full repair. So no more 4000-6000k repairs at that point.
Optionally u can raise your crafting skills and repair your own gear.

Each Dark Matter costs ~1000 seals, so you'll need to run 4 leves or so to buy an item to repair one piece of gear. Rinse/repeat for 52 leves total to be able to repair your gear once.

I don't think SE had it in mind to create the ultimate dynamic event grinder MMO ever created, right?

[OldGeezer]

The devs actually stopped dark matter 3 from being obtainable from gathering because of the economy, I am wondering why now...

Because they're trying to prevent end-arounds the "repair" gil sink. While dark matter was gatherable in the Beta it's not in the official version. If they could every level 50 would grind a botanist/miner to 50 and get 99 pieces of dark matter which I estimate could give you give around a week of gil-free dungeon grinding. The only true gil sink for the economy is repair cost. Teleport is optional because you have mounts and a free "return". The tax only pertains to the AH-and that too is optional. You don't directly make money on the AH, someone else gives you theirs for products offered. There are plenty of ways for you to make money (fates, levequests, company levequests, crafting then selling to NPCs) but you can't do it solely by grinding dungeons which leads to inflation and was a bad thing about 1.0.

[Doctor-]

I wish a dev would come out and say something about this issue.

[meuqsaco]

I'm afraid of spending money, because there are no places to make it back in a reasonable time.

[Peprika]

wow ... i had no clue how bad some of the level 50 players are... too bad you rushed to level cap and didnt actually learn to play the game efficiently...
but in retrospect this isnt your fault. its the developer's fault for not having challenging content to toughen players up in the early levels.