We need more ways to make gold in this game.

[MrKupo]

This may be by design. Before the servers closed for 1.0, pretty much everyone was a millionaire and there was just too much money to go around. Maybe they're holding back on the good ways to make gil for the higher levels so that us 1.0 peeps start to spend more than they are making. Lower levels are making money just fine.

[MrKupo]

Anyways, I don't get how so many people can make claims about the lack of circulating gil when the Markets have barely established any type of apparent trends in economy. I went on to the boards a few times and things that sold for 200k would be sold for 25k the very next sale. There's too much gil to go around and as of now it's hard to tell whether or not things are getting over priced or under priced because of the discrepancy of wealth between old and new players. I sold a piece of material I found for 40k, with it having absolutely no sale history whatsoever, and it sold almost immediately. I probably could have sold it for much more. In a few weeks or months, the issue you propose might actually be a thing, but I personally think it's way too soon to tell whether or not it poses a problem.

[Stormbad]

Gil in this game is like OIL in real life. Here comes the analogy, pay close attention ya fools!

1. New players questing is like finding new large OIL deposits.

2. Dungeons/Fates/Leves are like finding small OIL deposits.

3. Vendor trashing items is negligible.

4. AH is like refining OIL to gas but a chunk of the OIL is permanently gone from waste, by-products and energy usage.

5. Teleporting is like you driving you car. Billions of drivers and cars burning up the gas. This takes OIL out of the world.

6. Repair cost is like you buying plastics. The plastics are thrown away. This takes OIL out of the world.

Conclusion: It might take some time but in the end, the WORLD WILL RUN OUT OF OIL.

Also: IMO, this will only make RMT worse. What options does a level 50 player have but to buy Gil just to keep playing their chosen Job?

[RobinHood]

Gil in this game is like OIL in real life. Here comes the analogy, pay close attention ya fools!

1. New players questing is like finding new large OIL deposits.

2. Dungeons/Fates/Leves are like finding small OIL deposits.

3. Vendor trashing items is negligible.

4. AH is like refining OIL to gas but a chunk of the OIL is permanently gone from waste, by-products and energy usage.

5. Teleporting is like you driving you car. Billions of drivers and cars burning up the gas. This takes OIL out of the world.

6. Repair cost is like you buying plastics. The plastics are thrown away. This takes OIL out of the world.

Conclusion: It might take some time but in the end, the WORLD WILL RUN OUT OF OIL.

Also: IMO, this will only make RMT worse. What options does a level 50 player have but to buy Gil just to keep playing their chosen Job?

This is how intelligent people look at this situation, I like it.

[valhalla]

This is how intelligent people look at this situation, I like it.

Except for the fact that(since you're using oil as an example) new oil is constantly being added. His conclusion is that it would take time for the oil supply to run out. However, in the amount of time that would take(if it even happens), do you think we would be playing in the same setup with the same missions? If I recall correctly SE made all kinds of adjustments in FFXIV 1.x to counter all the inflation. They will probably do the same here if they see an imbalance.

[DrPancakes]

Except for the fact that(since you're using oil as an example) new oil is constantly being added. His conclusion is that it would take time for the oil supply to run out. However, in the amount of time that would take(if it even happens), do you think we would be playing in the same setup with the same missions? If I recall correctly SE made all kinds of adjustments in FFXIV 1.x to counter all the inflation. They will probably do the same here if they see an imbalance.

Do you know how oil is made?

lol.

[valhalla]

Do you know how oil is made?

lol.

My point exactly. Unlike oil, gil can be pulled out of thin air and added to the economy with a small bit of work. It can even be profitable if your strategy isn't reckless. Read it again.

[Gravitron]

Didnt read the whole thread...

Money will be made the old fashion way.. farming.

I can see how it may seem that gil is scarce for the "i already got to 50" crowd. However, you have leveled at such an above the norm pace that you are in front of the inflation curve that hasnt even begun yet.

The cost of vendor items will remain the same as the cost of crafting mats will steadily, indefinitely, continue to increase.

[Riyo]

Didnt read the whole thread...

Money will be made the old fashion way.. farming.

I can see how it may seem that gil is scarce for the "i already got to 50" crowd. However, you have leveled at such an above the norm pace that you are in front of the inflation curve that hasnt even begun yet.

The cost of vendor items will remain the same as the cost of crafting mats will steadily, indefinitely, continue to increase.

Not the issue.

[xxbodkinxx]

Didnt read the whole thread...

Money will be made the old fashion way.. farming.

I can see how it may seem that gil is scarce for the "i already got to 50" crowd. However, you have leveled at such an above the norm pace that you are in front of the inflation curve that hasnt even begun yet.

The cost of vendor items will remain the same as the cost of crafting mats will steadily, indefinitely, continue to increase.

The problem is what if the grinding cost you more in repairs then you make while grinding. Thats what most ppl are talking about. Run an instance, make 500 gil, repair cost 1000 gil.
I really really dont want to be forced into doing dailies just to run instances or farm fates or craft. Shudders at doing 30+ dailies in wow....