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    Wish I had pictures of how well "Player housing" on the world map went for Ultima Online. The entire wilderness as long as there was a 8x8 plot of land without a tree or rock in the way had a house. it looked abysmall and even making the entire multi-faceted world able to contain player housing they litteraly revolved expansion packs around new land for player housing.

    Nothing said "great housing implementation" when I logged in my house and had 12 ogres waiting to club my outside because my house blocks there spawn location so they spawn "Outside" my house making it a deathtrap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bled View Post
    Just a realist here..

    Cool idea but not very feasible or cost effective.
    You're not a realist. You're Bled, post count 103, FFXIV official forums. You would only be a realist if your end of the discussion were coming from a leadership position on the dev team. If you don't have all the facts and you can't assess the resources at hand.. all you have is an opinion about rumors. Maybe you're an Opinrealist?

    Besides that why not raise your expectations.. Crystal Tools is one giant screw up for SE. The devs have already talked about how it screwed up FF13. If you support SE's games and artists support asking for more than Crystal Tools.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Wish I had pictures of how well "Player housing" on the world map went for Ultima Online. The entire wilderness as long as there was a 8x8 plot of land without a tree or rock in the way had a house. it looked abysmall and even making the entire multi-faceted world able to contain player housing they litteraly revolved expansion packs around new land for player housing.

    Nothing said "great housing implementation" when I logged in my house and had 12 ogres waiting to club my outside because my house blocks there spawn location so they spawn "Outside" my house making it a deathtrap.
    I've never played any game like that with player housing. But just because it sucked there doesn't mean it has to suck. Minecraft doesn't suck, it's awesome. The reason I'm saying this is because I don't believe in problems stopping ideas. You start with an idea, and then you solve problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neptune View Post
    You're not a realist. You're Bled, post count 103, FFXIV official forums. You would only be a realist if your end of the discussion were coming from a leadership position on the dev team. If you don't have all the facts and you can't assess the resources at hand.. all you have is an opinion about rumors. Maybe you're an Opinrealist?

    Besides that why not raise your expectations.. Crystal Tools is one giant screw up for SE. The devs have already talked about how it screwed up FF13. If you support SE's games and artists support asking for more than Crystal Tools.



    I've never played any game like that with player housing. But just because it sucked there doesn't mean it has to suck. Minecraft doesn't suck, it's awesome. The reason I'm saying this is because I don't believe in problems stopping ideas. You start with an idea, and then you solve problems.
    lets see you obviously know nothing of realism seeing as you pick one theory of realism and run with it (that being scientific realism) in philosophical realism (which is based on plain old common sense) it deems that not all truths are available so realist views are based upon known truths. These known truths are based on what we do know and common sense; you do not need to know everything there is to know about something in order to be a realist.

    What do we know:
    1. Players building houses in the game environment has been so-so at best in other games.
    2. SE has eluded nothing to there exact plans on housing.
    3. Final Fantasy XIV equipment would at least have to be upgraded.
    4. all of this leads to shelling out more money on a "gimmick" rather than important game features.

    I do not know why you are so butt hurt Neptune that i do not agree with you, i am a realist and nothing you can "make up" to define realist changes the true definition of it. Common sense dictates instanced housing is probable were as you being the idealist want a over the top feature that is less likely to be used; can your idea happen sure, will it happen not probable.

    Also stating my post count, name, and the forums we are on has no gravity to the conversation... or to what a realist is in general...

    "Post your thoughts or objections and let's see what we can make of this idea." what is the point of making this statement in your OP, if you are going to rage at everyone else's views on your topic that don't match yours. The few responses i see from you are "thank you for agreeing with me" posts, and then you insert the praise right into your sig... is self gratification that important to you?
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    Last edited by Bled; 04-25-2011 at 06:18 PM.