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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirith View Post
    While it's clearly a cool idea i don't think FFXIV's engine and servers can do anything better than instanced rooms like FFXI's moghouses.
    Plus building houses in game is too far-fetched. For 1000 players there would need to be 1000 houses. Imagine 1000 prefab houses outside of Ul'dah. Imagine servers get populated to the max capacity, that will be anywhere from 5 to 10 thousand houses...

    Games that let you actually build stuff have a very different setup from FFXIV, and considering how things are right now to expect being able to build something persistent in the game world is ridiculous. In the most plausible related scenario i can see them letting us make vendor stands outside the city, but that's it.

    A bit like airships. They show us an amazing intro of airships fighting it off with dragons in the sky, but the best i can see happening is us fighting those weird walking airships like common mobs or crafting cannons, the number of which determines whether we managed to fend off the Garlean attack or not. (referring to promotional videos)
    I have to say i agree (biggest point being the population of houses verses feasible land), there's being realistic and then there is being overly imaginative.

    @ Gifthorse,

    I don't want to play Final Fantasy XIV: Sim City; for the amount of work that would be needed to do something of this magnitude i would much rather see more realistic content.

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    Yes! I want my own house, buying furnitures, internal decoration, more storage in house, etc
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    I think some people are forgetting that housing areas could be instanced. :x A plot of land that only holds so many houses. And another, and another. Enough for everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabiri View Post
    I think some people are forgetting that housing areas could be instanced. :x A plot of land that only holds so many houses. And another, and another. Enough for everyone.
    Majority of posts i see are people who do not want instanced houses. People want there houses to have an impact on the games environment which is what a lot of this discussion is based on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bled View Post
    Majority of posts i see are people who do not want instanced houses. People want there houses to have an impact on the games environment which is what a lot of this discussion is based on.
    I don't think the world is big enough for that. Things would get cluttered for sure. ^^;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabiri View Post
    I think some people are forgetting that housing areas could be instanced. :x A plot of land that only holds so many houses. And another, and another. Enough for everyone.
    Why do we play MMOs if we are just going to make everything in an instance? Suddenly all the content is instanced and we're no longer playing an MMO, we're just playing an entrance lobby.

    It needs to be in the open world or it should not be in the game at all.

    Ultima Online was one of the oldest MMOs ever made and it had persistent player housing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gifthorse View Post
    Why do we play MMOs if we are just going to make everything in an instance? Suddenly all the content is instanced and we're no longer playing an MMO, we're just playing an entrance lobby.

    It needs to be in the open world or it should not be in the game at all.

    Ultima Online was one of the oldest MMOs ever made and it had persistent player housing.

    I HATE instanced content for partying and more active things, but I think for housing it would be the only way we could get what we want - the ability to build, customize and grow.
    I'm not an "instance-everything!" freak. >.>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabiri View Post

    I HATE instanced content for partying and more active things, but I think for housing it would be the only way we could get what we want - the ability to build, customize and grow.
    I'm not an "instance-everything!" freak. >.>
    Well you have to ask yourself what the point of instanced housing is?

    The point of persistent housing is to let players actually build things, make an impact on the game world, and share their growth with other people.

    Instanced housing allows for none of those things. If instanced housing is added, they should just limit it to a mog house and not even bother going all-out. I mean, it's a waste of time if it is not done with a larger purpose in mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gifthorse View Post
    Well you have to ask yourself what the point of instanced housing is?

    The point of persistent housing is to let players actually build things, make an impact on the game world, and share their growth with other people.

    Instanced housing allows for none of those things. If instanced housing is added, they should just limit it to a mog house and not even bother going all-out. I mean, it's a waste of time if it is not done with a larger purpose in mind.
    Non-instanced housing is highly unlikely and improbable in terms of FFXIV's graphics and needed power to run the game. It would take up way too many resources to have a custom house for EVERY player, especially if it was within city walls... It would create an immense amount of lag and clutter. It's just impractical.

    Instanced housing would be a lot like Mog Houses in XI... You can invite your friends on to your instance to see your garden, your house, etc. without slowing down the entire server. It just seems like the route to take.

    I have no problem with instanced housing as long as I can invite others to my instance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gifthorse View Post
    Well you have to ask yourself what the point of instanced housing is?

    The point of persistent housing is to let players actually build things, make an impact on the game world, and share their growth with other people.

    Instanced housing allows for none of those things. If instanced housing is added, they should just limit it to a mog house and not even bother going all-out. I mean, it's a waste of time if it is not done with a larger purpose in mind.
    I already stated that the point is "the ability to build, customize and grow" without cluttering up land. Without so many limits.
    And I was speaking of instanced villages, not housing alone. The ability to wander though instanced villages and see other's homes - if invited, go inside. If asked, help build.
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