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    Quote Originally Posted by Radaghast View Post
    You still don't get it. I don't care if you're a foreigner. I care about the fact for complex situations like raids or group missions, they require more communication than what the translator can provide. To suggest "go learn a new language" to play a game is ludicrous. When you put all players of different languages into one server, you're effectively limiting the pool of players you can interact with in these kind of situations.
    You're still implying that most people need the translator to communicate. Which is laughable. A vast majority of non-english native speakers that play MMORPGs *do* speak english.
    Add to that the fact that many english speakers learn other languages *bcause it's useful* (and not just to play the game), and you get a much better picture than what you're trying to show, while trying very hard to misconstrue what I say, by the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radaghast View Post
    You still don't get it. I don't care if you're a foreigner. I care about the fact for complex situations like raids or group missions, they require more communication than what the translator can provide. To suggest "go learn a new language" to play a game is ludicrous. When you put all players of different languages into one server, you're effectively limiting the pool of players you can interact with in these kind of situations.

    I really hope you're not serious here. Servers can handle thousands of players. So let's assume you're on a server that's "maxed out" at ... 5,000, just to pick a number. Even if 50% of them were Japanese players, that's still 2,500 people that you can potentially party with in your bigoted way. Oh, and I'd be willing to bet that at least 10% of that other 2,500 can speak enough English to satisfy your "I need to use complex explanations" requirement.

    If there was a server limit of less than 100 people, you MIGHT have had a point... but you're just getting ridiculous now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Or perhaps that segregated servers are stagnant. What happens when I play during "Lowtime" on the NA server but can't play with anyone because the majority of the NA world sleeps?

    Too many issues with players being on at odd times, I think it's a downright silly thing segregated servers. Hell in XI there was little to no "Server lag" and in XIV I still see little server lag and we have been told this is all server side issues not regional issues.

    The reason we take so long to do ____ is because all the actions are server side instead of client side, they have been slowly migrating functions to client side for much faster feedback.
    How can you not see server lag in FFXI or FFXIV? Do you live inside the servers or something?
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    Most jps who played XI know basic english for strategy in the game, and certain function of a party. The other day in XI, this guy asked "why are you guys saying WC, we're not euros lol" and everyone /facepalmed. Most mmo terminology came from EQ and that age of mmos, and so it was taken directly to Japan. [proven by jps lurking my english convo strat from xi, all the time, multiple occasions] I think if its common mmo lingo, they know it.

    edit: i'll admit my partying isn't a statistical survey, but its an observation.
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    FFXIV's inclusive global server system is wonderful. Not only does it allow us to play with people from around the world, but it also makes it so that there are several peak playing times.

    Would response times be faster if the servers were located in your country? Sure, but you probably wouldn't even notice it. I lived in Japan for seven years, and during that time I played WoW for a bit with a friend of mine back in the U.S. We played on a U.S. server. When we bothered to check latency his was always somewhat better than mine, but when actually playing the game we noticed no difference. Response times for me were just fine. FFXIV has big problems with lag, but it's not due to the servers being located in Japan. I guarantee you that gamers get the same crappy lag over there as well. (FFXI was certainly no zippier for me when I played it over there.)
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    I agree, I pinged the Lodestone and it was like 260ms compared to the normal 20ms I get on most other sites stateside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dargoth_Draconia View Post
    I agree, I pinged the Lodestone and it was like 260ms compared to the normal 20ms I get on most other sites stateside.
    Big deal, two whole tenths of second. It's gonna ruin your peerformaaans in a game that has absolutely nothing to do with twitch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Big deal, two whole tenths of second. It's gonna ruin your peerformaaans in a game that has absolutely nothing to do with twitch.
    And more importantly, is balanced to account for latency.

    There's a reason why in MMOs there is no noticable difference between someone playing with 20 ping and someone playing with 300 ping.
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    Two tenths of a second can be a lot when you are constantly uploading and downloading data, just saying. I always had latency issues in FFXI and FFXIV when in area with 20 or more people. It is definitely playable and it doesn't bother me all that bad but it would be nice to be able to do away with some of that if it was ever an option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dargoth_Draconia View Post
    Two tenths of a second can be a lot when you are constantly uploading and downloading data, just saying. I always had latency issues in FFXI and FFXIV when in area with 20 or more people. It is definitely playable and it doesn't bother me all that bad but it would be nice to be able to do away with some of that if it was ever an option.
    That's not latency... that's the limits of your internet connection. Latency is just the delay it takes to communicate the distance between your computer and a server (literally the time it takes for the electrons to travel that distance). The problem you were having there is that your internet connection wasn't good enough to handle the large stream of info coming (trying to shove too many electrons down the pipe at once). Nothing to do with latency.
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