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    Kitru's Avatar
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    Kitru Kitera
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    Cactuar
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Myrthele View Post
    ...but doesn't the pally still take less damage on single target over the course of long fights?
    PAL takes less damage, but the two require a similar level of healing thanks to the Mara self heals.

    As to whether there needs to be some degree of rebalancing, I'm not entirely sure. I haven't done any kind of side-by-side comparison (though every healer I run with tells me that I'm infinitely better than the PALs they've run with, though that might just be a level and/or player thing).
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    Alwryn's Avatar
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    Alwryn Tourn
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 60
    No offense, but the lot of you have no idea what you're talking about.

    Level and experience both jobs in actual endgame content, all of it, before you make such bold claims.
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    Omni Maggs
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I think people are judging Warrior and Paladin too much prior to the Raids. Raids are going to be the true end game and are going to bring multiple aspects to each boss encounter. Right now Warriors are better all around, yes, but that's because of the current state of the game. The Primals aren't hitting hard enough to where Paladins are in a real need. Are Paladins bad? No way. Paladins are great are sustaining themselves along with taking bigger hits. Warriors are better AoE Tanks are better tanks for when bit damage is about to come out (because of their HP Increase/Steal abilities.)

    When more end game does come out I believe we are going to see a lot of Paladin single tanking with Warrior swapping in when the boss is about to do big AoE or Single target damage. I also think we are going to see fights where Warrior is going to be the best bet as a main tank and Paladin off tanking single adds and what not.
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    Shyle Katriss
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    Ultros
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    Samurai Lv 70
    I read in an interview from the developers (Yoshi-P I think to be specific), he mentioned making tanks more attractive to players to level, which could mean both tanks getting additional "buffs" (for soloing) (as we all know both jobs can sufficiently tank all the content just fine how it is currently). Now I don't have a pld leveled beyond 15, but Plds do have a "dps" type stance where auto attack is increased. Maybe (and I'm actually kinda hoping for this), they'll add more to that stance and give the Warrior one as well that's essentially the opposite of defiance. Where it's increased damage, with a health penalty and still gives the wraith buff (to use the abilities that use it)?

    Don't get me wrong, I *Love* my warrior, and I'm very happy where my job is right now, but if they were to do this, I could see adding this type of thing into the game could allow the tanks to do dps when there's not a need for 2 tanks in one fight (but the raid still requires 2 in other fights) without gimping the raid dps.
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    Fujin Ono
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Shyle View Post
    I read in an interview from the developers (Yoshi-P I think to be specific), he mentioned making tanks more attractive to players to level, which could mean both tanks getting additional "buffs" (for soloing) (as we all know both jobs can sufficiently tank all the content just fine how it is currently). Now I don't have a pld leveled beyond 15, but Plds do have a "dps" type stance where auto attack is increased. Maybe (and I'm actually kinda hoping for this), they'll add more to that stance and give the Warrior one as well that's essentially the opposite of defiance. Where it's increased damage, with a health penalty and still gives the wraith buff (to use the abilities that use it)?

    Don't get me wrong, I *Love* my warrior, and I'm very happy where my job is right now, but if they were to do this, I could see adding this type of thing into the game could allow the tanks to do dps when there's not a need for 2 tanks in one fight (but the raid still requires 2 in other fights) without gimping the raid dps.
    I could see them easily adding in a more dps dependent version of the war tanking buff but on the possible second Mrd class job. Maybe call the job Berserker and the stance give +25% health {same as original} -20% defense {replaces the +emnity and dmg reduction portion} and the ability to build wrath stacks.
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    Kaladin Stormblessed
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    Goblin
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Cocytus View Post
    I could see them easily adding in a more dps dependent version of the war tanking buff but on the possible second Mrd class job. Maybe call the job Berserker and the stance give +25% health {same as original} -20% defense {replaces the +emnity and dmg reduction portion} and the ability to build wrath stacks.
    Don't see why they would make a second class to maruader still use wrath stacks... I'd hope they would put more thought into it and make the class more unique.
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    Ferenz Massani
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    Moogle
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    Gladiator Lv 21
    is that possible with one character?
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