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    MORE DOTS!

    Looking over the class abilities I noticed the DOT stats vary, for example:

    Touch of Death (Pugilist): Initial Potency 20, DOT Potency 25
    Fracture (Marauder): Initial Potency 100, DOT Potency 20.

    Both have a 30 second duration. Fracture does more initial damage, but which does more total damage? How often do Damage over Time abilities tic? If it's every second TOD does more, but if it's every 3 seconds Fracture wins out.
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    Hi Kincade,

    I really think you answered your own question!

    Assuming a 1 second 'tick' for damage, the math comes out to:

    ToD: 20+(25*30)= 750dmg
    Frac: 100+(20*30)= 700dmg

    For 3 sec per tick:

    ToD: 20+(25*10)= 270dmg
    Frac: 100+(20*10)= 300dmg

    So clearly your math is spot on, I just wish I knew how often the 'tick' duration was so that I could help out more directly! If you find out anywhere, let me know!

    Thanks!
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    DoT's tick once every 3 seconds.
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    DoT ticks at every 3 second.

    You might want to note that in FFXIV, DoT tick works in the world-wide basis. Just to put an example, if you apply at dot 0 second, the first tick does not happen 3seconds after the application, the tick will occur according to the world-wide tick.

    i.e.
    server time
    0---1---2---3---4---5---6---7---8---9---10
    ---^--------^
    ---^--------first tick, note that it's on the 3rd second of the server time, not really 3seconds after application
    ---dot applied here
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    Last edited by Zerohiten; 09-03-2013 at 10:58 PM.

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    Thanks. I'm guessing Fracture is a better choice for front-loading damage and overall damage then?
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    It just occurred to me...what exactly does Potency mean? Is it the actual base damage/effect done or is it a multiplier that takes level and stats (and whatever else) into account?
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    It's a linear modifier of the overall damage formula.
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    As far as I know from using MNK, DoT's Stack I try to keep Touch of Death and Demolish up at all times on a boss fight. If someone knows otherwise please tell me if I'm wasting a Dot.
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    Yoso Carrasco
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kincade View Post
    It just occurred to me...what exactly does Potency mean? Is it the actual base damage/effect done or is it a multiplier that takes level and stats (and whatever else) into account?
    It's based off your auto attack damage. Your auto-attack is 100 potency.

    As far as I know from using MNK, DoT's Stack I try to keep Touch of Death and Demolish up at all times on a boss fight. If someone knows otherwise please tell me if I'm wasting a Dot.
    Yes, DoTs from multiple people and multiple sources stack. The only exception I believe is Thunder spells, each player can only have 1 Thunder DoT on an enemy at a time.
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    So I can have Touch of Death, Fracture and Venomous Bite all running at the same time? Nice.
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