the main point to my post is because SE failed to implement a Queue server capable of sustaining the load, well even (my guess 20%) of the current load most MMO's are going to get angry and in turn quit and move on back to wow or whatever...I REALLY wanted version 2 to do well for itself as it is a FANTASTIC game 'When' you can play it, i mean 3 days so far and not being able to log in once is just madness. the only reason this game may not do so well is because they have already angered a good amount of gamers that is just the way the average mmo'er thinks, it is all about first impressions!