Against cross-server groups? please...

[Jamel-Irief]

(off topic)Actually Jamel FFXIII was immersive to some degree, the story driven game got you immersed in the story and in the characters but compared to other FF titles it was severely lacking. Agree to disagree perhaps?

Sure, how you enjoy a game is a very personal thing. FFXIII wasn't a bad game per say. It just didn't live up to my personal expectations (and apparently others too) following earlier FF games epic stories and the fond memories that followed those. And that is about as off-topic as i'll go.

[Kazimir]

I don't honestly care if you don't play 4+ hours a day. I and others that think like me aren't going to be okay with cross-server groups just because some people don't play a bunch. I've seen what cross-server grouping does first hand and while it does allow people to get groups a little faster it causes way too many issues because people are much more likely to be jackasses, suck at their jobs, and it DOES in fact ruin parts of the social aspect in the game, something I assume you're not worried about since you don't play very much.

And stop with the "I can't play because I work and have a gf" crap, I go to school, work, have a wife and 2 step-kids and I'm not going to sit here and demand a cross-server grouping system because I know what it will do to the game.

[PeppinoTuna]

Now this thread is target to people like me who have a real social life, work, school, gf or bf and other life obligations and that DO NOT have 8h a day to dedicate to a single video game.

Seriously cut the crap of cross-server dungeons will kill the social aspect of the game. Yes i did enjoy making parties in both FFXI and WOW(before they added cross-server auto-grouping).. It was fun and i did make a lot of friends that way. But that was way back when i was younger and had no job or anything special to do...

Now i do not have 1h+ to spend just to look for parties. 1h is pretty much the total time i can allocate to the game during a day and i don't want to waste it trying to find a party. I want to be able to login and pick up the game right away and play.

Yes some of you are hardcore gamers and spend 80% of your day in a mmo but not everyone is like that.

Also the game does not have an large enough active user base for a system where you need to look for people manually within your own server. When the game will have reached a user base above 5M and that finding a party will be quite an easy task, then i'd be glad to get rid of the cross-server system.

You could always just make a post on the forum designated to your server and ask for people interested in doing the dungeon to log on @ a certain time, a time most suitable for you, so that you'll have people to do the dungeon with... You already know how to use the forums, I can't imagine that you'll need an auto-party system to get anywhere in this game.

Cross server auto-partying systems have been known to create chaos in other MMORPGs. I hope most of you are not ignoring the downsides and trying to hold the positives to outweigh them. For you to use one source of communication, claiming that you need a new source to find parties looks ridiculous.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/forums/114-COMMUNITY

I suggest you start using these forums and finding people interested in playing the same time as you. I've seen multiple threads on these forums where people are joining together at certain times and planning ahead.

Certainly, you've heard of the phrase, "plan ahead"?

When dungeons come out I plan on hanging out around the NPC to find a party. When it reaches the point to where I'm unable to find a party to do them, I plan to use the forums to find a party of people who is also interested in running them with me. Not only does it help increase community awareness, but it allows a chance to prepare ahead of time, discussing tactics.


With those that have used a cross-world partying system that auto-parties for dungeons, most of us have heard of and experienced the negatives of the feature and would not like to bring Final Fantasy XIV down to that level. If it ends up being part of FFXIV, I don't plan on quitting, but I feel that the negatives will outweigh the positives.

[Jibe]

You could always just make a post on the forum designated to your server and ask for people interested in doing the dungeon to log on @ a certain time, a time most suitable for you, so that you'll have people to do the dungeon with... You already know how to use the forums, I can't imagine that you'll need an auto-party system to get anywhere in this game.

Cross server auto-partying systems have been known to create chaos in other MMORPGs. I hope most of you are not ignoring the downsides and trying to hold the positives to outweigh them. For you to use one source of communication, claiming that you need a new source to find parties looks ridiculous.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/forums/114-COMMUNITY

I suggest you start using these forums and finding people interested in playing the same time as you. I've seen multiple threads on these forums where people are joining together at certain times and planning ahead.

Certainly, you've heard of the phrase, "plan ahead"?

When dungeons come out I plan on hanging out around the NPC to find a party. When it reaches the point to where I'm unable to find a party to do them, I plan to use the forums to find a party of people who is also interested in running them with me. Not only does it help increase community awareness, but it allows a chance to prepare ahead of time, discussing tactics.


With those that have used a cross-world partying system that auto-parties for dungeons, most of us have heard of and experienced the negatives of the feature and would not like to bring Final Fantasy XIV down to that level. If it ends up being part of FFXIV, I don't plan on quitting, but I feel that the negatives will outweigh the positives.

Well said Mr. PeppinoTuna, well said.

[Speeral]

Dargoth,

I totally get what you are saying. But here is my point, I understand some people have less than an hour to play, which is fine I am not saying that cannot play. Instead, I am saying that it may not be the most appropriate game for them. Look at how many hours it took for you to get all your jobs, now break that up into 1 hour or less a day, you'll make progress but not much and you cannot actually enjoy all aspects of the game world.

Here in lies the other problem is the community and the very split perspectives we are seeing on the forums. We have two sides the "casual" vs "hardcore". One side is time limited and wants events and content they can do in an hour or less, and the other is the polar opposite. Now take content development if the over all content is developed say primarily for those with very little time on their hands say 1-1.5 hours and you have oodles of content aimed at 30-45 minutes per event. You can fill that and the person with less time will take a while to get through this content plus the time needed to level into the content.

now let's look at the other side of the player base which right now in the current state of the game has only one real activity grinding and mid level nm's and the four high level ones.


Se's task here is to now figure out which group to make more content for. The gamer with oodles of time to play and spend in the world that will in the long run unsub less and play through the games whole life, or the time limited player who wants to play but can;t but also has other video game and life priorities.

That was the point to the OP if they have an hour or less to play then, this style of game may not be best suited for them. i would never tell someone to leave, because i disagree with them. I do how ever think right now there are too many elements within this game and coming into the game that are too rewarding and too easy meaning players over all will get bored quickly.

[Lyndis]

I have plenty of things to do in real life, today i have two hours before work and that's about it. I am still against the idea of crossworld party making. I've played games where similar stuff is possible, you party with them, you don't say a word, and then you leave and never see them again. I want to join a party and see someone I know or someone I could befriend or see again. This isn't a shooter game where we're just killing everyone so we can say we're better than the rest of the community. This is a FINAL FANTASY MMO where friendship should be key.

[Arcell]

Someone please tell me how this would be a game-ruining end of the world feature if it was simply an option. Seriously, if you could still choose to group with friends or LS mates and complete the same content how would this ruin the game? You're not being forced to use it, if you don't like it then don't use it. How is that not a reasonable compromise?

[Jamel-Irief]

Someone please tell me how this would be a game-ruining end of the world feature if it was simply an option. Seriously, if you could still choose to group with friends or LS mates and complete the same content how would this ruin the game? You're not being forced to use it, if you don't like it then don't use it. How is that not a reasonable compromise?

Not everything in an online game are depending on individual playstyle. Many others have said this much more detailed so I'm going to keep it short, but it has been experienced in other games that this exact feature have been detrimental for those game communities. Communities, you know, that thing that revolves around other peoples enjoyment more than your own.

End of the world? No. Will I voice my opinion on the matter in an attempt to NOT get this feature implemented? Yes sir.

[Loth]

Did we really need one more of these threads?!

Anyway, I seriously hope they do not implement cross-server party, it does nothing good for the community.

[Radaghast]

Nothing in anyway, shape and/or form is cross server dungeons a game breaker!!! Explain to me how it would be, don't say it destroys communities or any of the other arguments that has no solid hold in a debate.

Yea there's no real community to begin with. Everyone is in their own little clique LS's anyway. Cross server can't do anything but help. The population is so low it would take x10 as long on some servers to find a group to do the dungeons.