I do indeed, which is why my post was an attempt to show how there's more to it than just "add more servers" or "add channels" and I'm in server management (databases ect) which i don't really consider programming (though i should) i would hate to have to use the heavier languages on a daily basis. I have lots of respect for true programmers.
Also i've not slept and some of my judgement may be slipping >.> perhaps I will go to bed now