Goobbue Mount

[BobbinT]

Instead of wanting gobbue mount, how about making 1.23 available to play again? It's not just about the mount. XD

This feels like having FFX-2 without FFX, or FFXIII-2 without FFXIII. lol

[Galione]

You have no idea what we went through to get those mounts o.o *hushes the other 1.0 players* (don't say anything)

[Invz]

You have no idea what we went through to get those mounts o.o *hushes the other 1.0 players* (don't say anything)

Dude that was like the hardest quest in all of 1.0 at the time.

[Decoyninja]

I support this. I'm fine with 1.0 people getting something small to feel special, it was called legacy. I joined a legacy server to play with my guild and it does feel like a punishment to see an ingame item I can't work to attain in a P2P game (which is what P2P games are about I'm told, the freedom to work and achieve/attain everything ingame because nothing is paywalled) . Most new players are just people who were smart enough to heed the good advice of NOT buying 1.0 afterall.

[YeaniNah]

Goobbue mount was a limited quest and i think i heard long ago from people that they took him off saying the NPC was arrested for giving Goobbue Mount. So limited Edition. ...

Is people gonna complain for the Raven ring. I want it i want it make it available ... i dont have it cos i didnt finish in time and i dont mind
Is people gonna complain they want the horne helm that you received when finish all 1.0 story line too ??? sorry you quitted before

And people complain but i couldnt play cos of my pc wasnt good enough. It's the same thing AS i couldnt play cos i didnt buy the game yet. It's not SE problem if you pc is not good. you want SE to buy you your own PC to play too ???

[Keybah]

Understand one thing I'm suggesting to bring it back. Am I ranting on and on about legacy players no I support them for playing.

[Decoyninja]

Understand one thing I'm suggesting to bring it back. Am I ranting on and on about legacy players no I support them for playing.

Why read the thread when it is easier to exaggerate and strawman?

[Aegis]

It never stops.

If they get goobbue they will whine about White Ravens
If they get White Ravens they will whine about the dalamud horn
If they get the horn (giggity) they will whine about the tattoo
If they get the tattoo they will whine about the chocobo
If they get the chocobo they will whine about the storyline
If they get the storyline they will whine about the discount
If they get the discount they will whine that all the new players can get everything they got, why can't things be made exclusive damnit, they worked for that stuff.

[Decoyninja]

It never stops.

If they get goobbue they will whine about White Ravens
If they get White Ravens they will whine about the dalamud horn
If they get the horn (giggity) they will whine about the tattoo
If they get the tattoo they will whine about the chocobo
If they get the chocobo they will whine about the storyline
If they get the storyline they will whine about the discount
If they get the discount they will whine that all the new players can get everything they got, why can't things be made exclusive damnit, they worked for that stuff.

The slippery-slope argument has never been a good reason to oppose something. It is one of the most obvious fallacies out there.

[Aegis]

The slippery-slope argument has never been a good reason to oppose something. It is one of the most obvious fallacies out there.

It's not a slippery slope argument, a slippery slope argument would be that SE would need to give in on the Goobbue before the complainers would request the rest. Unfortunately, there've already been requests in the beta forums for all of the above *cough*except for the Dalamud Horn. No-one gives a fig about that*cough*

I can't see any reason why you would be opposed to giving people any of the other things if you are for giving them the Goobbue. All of them are content that was earned exclusively through version 1. Why not argue for new, awesome mounts rather than rehashing old content. Is it just because someone else has a toy that you want?

"What harm or negativity does it bring to the game, or the community by allowing people to have it?"

The Answer - Players were promised something would be exclusive and limited time only. This item may even have driven someone to subscribe for that month. By then making the item not exclusive anymore that player may feel like they were cheated into subscribing or that the item they obtained has lost value. It's like offering promotional items for collectors editions, then making those items available for purchase later. Something a lot of players have an issue with across many genres

Additionally, by telling players that items would be exclusive and limited time only and then going back on that, it erodes trust between the community and the developers.

Don't pose a question then immediately answer it yourself without giving people with an opposing viewpoint a chance to answer it. That's called a strawman, you are misrepresenting the viewpoints of those you are arguing with to make your argument easier.