Goobbue Mount

[Reser]

Though as a whole, there were emails, site updates and letters from the producers claiming this was an exclusive mount only available up to patch 1.23a back in July of 2012 or so. There is no disputing written guarantees years past, especially with the precedence as stands with exclusive meaning exclusive. This is the honest and cited truth of the matter at hand.

Every single one of those links simply stated the quest to get the Goobue horn would no longer be available in 1.0 after 1.23 they never once stated "Exclusive", or that the Goobue would never ever be available again or make a return in 2.0 in another way.

Learn to read. thanks.

[Noata]

We can spin what we want but in truth it all boils down to these base desires

Getting something I want --- Envy
Keeping what I have. --- Jealousy

There is no shame in admitting that you want something because you like it. though trying to justify deserving it is another story. In this case I would side with the legacy. simply put SE gave their word it would be exclusive and only obtainable in 1.0 for that event. and keeping ones word should take precedence. The value of a person is on how much their voice carry's weight. Truth and Honor are what build this, Honoring your word, and telling the truth. without these you could try your best to convince someone of something and fail.

The world would be simpler if we didn't hide behind a fancy curtain of justification. If we could just say. "I want it because I like it" and "I do not want them to have it, It is mine"

[Alteiriaa]

Dude I don't even care if they bring Goob back, though I would hope that they change it a bit. Why? Because it was a one time only thing that was up for a while. It's like complaining about not getting a event reward because you were unsubbed then. To be fair though, event rewards are obtainable during some events again, but they normally charge. I think if they bring Goob back they should charge and not just pass him off for free, at least as a gil sink or something because eventually we'll need one. :P

[Meliae]

I dont mind them being added in again, but what I would like them to do if they do add them in again is to reskin them just change the color of carpet or goobbue so that you can still the difference betweent he V1.0 mount and ARR mount.

[Ryuukishi]

No way. And I say this as a new ARR player who thinks the Goobue mount looks awesome and would love to have one. I think it's really cool that it's something exclusive just for the oldest and most loyal players.

[Feldt]

SE should consider making the Goobbue an obtainable mount again. ARR new players will appreciate this limited mount that is currently for 1.0 players. I feel like I'm missing out
I didn't get to play 1.0. T^T

No, No, No, No and one more time Nope! Absolutely Not.

[Monzcarro]

Nah, they should bring out a Snow Gobbue instead.

[Decoyninja]

Players were promised something would be exclusive and limited time only.

When the devs list a timetable for when the mount stops being attainable, it is not a promise that such items will never return.

The word "exclusive" just means that it is limited in some way. Time cards are EU/JP exclusive at the moment. It is not uncommon for exclusive retailer preorder bonuses to be attainable years later. Many games use repeating holiday events to distribute exclusive items. The Coeurl is an exclusive mount for CE/DCE, but it isn't going anywhere.

Of course that is all moot. I don't have to even argue the different definitions of “exclusive” because the term exclusive is one you are other posters here are applying to the mount, not something you were promised.
To propose that this item was PROMISED to never be available again requires sourcing. Dev posts stating when the event ends is not good enough.

[Decoyninja]

It's not a slippery slope argument, a slippery slope argument would be that SE would need to give in on the Goobbue before the complainers would request the rest...

A slippery-slope argument is when someone proposes that conceding to A would inevitably lead way to B. It's the idea that bringing back the goobbue will be like a domino effect that cannot stop, that the decs are incapable of bringing it back without bringing back things like legacy status for example. This is a silly view.

An example of this fallacy in action: your post #41.
“If they can't trust that this will be one-time only, how about legacy benefits, could we then trust that they won't be given away again?”

What about the seasonal items?
...
I see Goobbue as a reward from a seasonal event.

A "seasonal event" implies the event repeats on a cycle (like seasons themselves). Exclusive items are handled in many games this way actually.

[Felis]

A "seasonal event" implies the event repeats on a cycle (like seasons themselves). Exclusive items are handled in many games this way actually.

The events, yes. But not the rewards. Like Christmas event:
2010 - Santa suit
2011 - Rendeer suit
2013 - Snowman suit

For the Goobbue, the event was a one-time, the reward should also be a one-time.
It was a part of the 7th umbral era story.

Ne'er till land consumes sun can sea bear moons.
Heavens spew crimson flame, hells seep black dooms.

I have walked the four corners of Hydaelyn, from the Gardens of Xarakish, to the floating lakes of Voor Sian Siran, but never in my travels have I encountered such a fell prophecy. One need not be an oracle to precise the great ill which casts a shadow across this forsaken realm.
Yet...perhaps there is still hope for Eorzea.
When I arrived in this land, I was beset with peril day and night-forced to endure countless trials which tested my mind, my body, and my faith. And I am not ashamed to admit that I would have faltered, had it not been for the help of a handful of nameless adventurers much like yourself.
Honest men and women who proffered the hand of friendship to a weary soul and led him safe from the darkness. I pondered long over how I could repay the kindness shown me...only to find the answer in the most unlikely of places-the final verse of the selfsame song that had so haunted me since my first days in Eorzea:

Souls from aether far, strangers from strange lands.
Yester with thine eyes, morrow by thine hands.

Had the gods led me to Eorzea for a reason? Might I serve a higher purpose, through which lives might be saved and order restored to the realm? I hoped that it might be so. For what better use may a man's life be put to than to serve as an agent of divine intervention? ...But in what manner was I to play my part?
Seeking an answer, I prayed for twelve days and twelve nights until at least I collapsed of exhaustion. However, it was at this moment that I was blessed with a vision-a single-horned beast leading a flock of chocobos from a burning forest. When I awoke from my reverie, I knew what I must do.
Once, long ago, I was summoned to a wealthy satrapy far to the east to play in the royal court. When my performance was complete, the High Satrap was so moved that he offered me anything I desired in exchange for one more song. I humbly accepted, and for my reward requested knowledge of a secret that had been kept by the satrapy's military for generations-their method of taming goobbies.
Needless to say, the High Satrap was initially reluctant to grand me that which I had requested, but being n honest man, ever conscious of his obligation to set an example before his subjects, he soon relented and acquiesced to my terms. Since that time, I have kept his nation's secret, but now believe that as the sixth sun wanes and seventh moon waxes, it is mete that I should pass it on in hopes that the knowledge may be made to serve us all.
With this horn, may you lead us from despair, and help us in a new age. I put my trust in you, adventurer. Do not let me down.

And it was a reward for the people who remained ingame after P2P started to experience the 7th umbral era story. It came ingame shortly after the P2P started and long before the Legacy campaign.

To propose that this item was PROMISED to never be available again requires sourcing. Dev posts stating when the event ends is not good enough.

[dev1296] The goobbue mount has been added.
* Please note that the goobbue mount can only be obtained before the release of FINAL FANTASY XIV Version 2.0.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/35688

We would like to take a moment to inform you that the goobbue mount will become unobtainable upon the release of patch 1.23a. Those adventurers who have yet to acquire the goobbue horn with which to summon their very own towering seedkin steed are urged to do so with all haste!

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...db74c478bf55ee

Discontinued Content in FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn (07/27/2012)

As previously announced, the goobbue horn, which is the item used to summon the goobbue mount, will no longer be obtainable as of the release of patch 1.23a.

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...0c9127bfe4e624