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  1. #11
    Player
    GinTama's Avatar
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    Strawberry Dragon
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    Phoenix
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    Arcanist Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by Ruprect View Post
    It is dumb the way this is setup. When you get your job you should be able to set your points up based on the job not the main class. Leveling as an ACN while putting all of your pts in MND was a pita until I hit 30 and could use cleric stance as a SCH. And also what are people supposed to do that did not know any better and are stick with a bunch of INT and farming for 10k seals is not an answer, no one else has to farm seals for their job as it was very clear what their main stat would be from the beginning.
    Its not dumb it makes sense, you just can't see it.
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  2. #12
    Player
    Navine's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Navine Deleone
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Well I like both smn and sch and it's been really hard traiting for both but I'm making it work.
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  3. #13
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    Beastmode's Avatar
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    Beastmode Swagger
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 22
    Quote Originally Posted by GinTama View Post
    Its not dumb it makes sense, you just can't see it.
    Good help. Your reasoning is on point and you made a lot of sense with your argument. /endsarcasm
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  4. #14
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    Jojen's Avatar
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    Character
    Rayfe Rivendell
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 32

    Cleric Stance

    Ok so I'm asking this to the people who crunch the numbers and do all that extra math stuff to help us others out. Seeing as how the arcanist gets a lot of int from passive traits while leveling up, if you put all your points in int and then used cleric stance would the int --> mind outweigh the negative healing aspect that cleric stance generates? Because if it does then that's what I'm gonna go with.

    20% decrease in heals might be less significant than the gain in all that int you spent ur points on going to mind in cleric stance. Please help me with the math!
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  5. #15
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    Wetoh's Avatar
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    Character
    Tero Aere
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    I flip back and forth between Summoner and Scholar all the time. I put my points into intellect for summoner, but when I switch over to scholar, the gear I have for it makes the Mind attribute surpass my intellect attribute. I have no problems with healing during dungeons with doing it this way. As far as cleric stance goes, I would not use it because I noticed that when using it that my heals were maybe 20 to 50 points less than when I had it off. This may not be for everyone, but it works for me.
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  6. #16
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    Lebeau Sin'dorei
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    I agree with the OP. The comment about the "Free 50" is woefully misplaced since they've already stated each class will eventually have multiple jobs. Most people are apathetic *now* because it doesn't affect them.

    I'm just upset that my passives are INT-based when my job is MND-based. If anything they should buff Maim and Mend and replace the stat traits.
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    Last edited by Lebeau; 09-04-2013 at 02:22 AM.

  7. #17
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    Zigana's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Titania Alberich
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    I also feel that Cleric Stance should be viable for Summoners. I stacked all my points in mind so far so I can heal to my fullest. However, if I so decide to play around with Summoner, dropping gil seems like a waste. If they added Cleric Stance for Summoners my MIND would be able to be used as INT. Which would be ideal.
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  8. #18
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    Gridania (But really Limsa)
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    Character
    Monty Moguri
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Those who say you're not supposed to be able to switch to any job you want are wrong. That is the big selling point of this game, that you dont have to make more than 1 character to lvl all the classes. This is the reason I wished they would only have 1 class for 1 job.

    They need to make all your points reset one time when you change to a new job.
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  9. #19
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    Ruprect Castiect
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by billydata21 View Post
    Those who say you're not supposed to be able to switch to any job you want are wrong. That is the big selling point of this game, that you dont have to make more than 1 character to lvl all the classes. This is the reason I wished they would only have 1 class for 1 job.

    They need to make all your points reset one time when you change to a new job.
    Or give each job their own points like they do with classes. So when you change jobs it saves the points you have used to that job not based on what points you used for that class.
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  10. #20
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    Character
    Ziana Zain
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    Typhon
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    I am actually using this. I have all my points on int and I am using Cleric Stance.
    If you look closely your healing magic potency and attack magic potency matches your mind and intelligence. I think the 20% healing reduction and 10% attack increase just don't work with scholar.

    On or off cleric stance does not affect the magic potency it seems but when cleric stance is on, my healing is much better. Can anyone clarify this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jojen View Post
    20% decrease in heals might be less significant than the gain in all that int you spent ur points on going to mind in cleric stance. Please help me with the math!
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