Help me understand AOE markers

[KimimiAvesta]

I'm obviously missing something, but from where I'm sitting it goes like this -

Enemy targets me with AOE
I move a good way outside the AOE marker (sometimes not even stopping just so I can get as far away as possible)
AOE marker disappears
Enemy starts AOE attack animation
I then get hit by the AOE

Now sometimes it's simply that I'm not fast enough - that's OK. But there still seem to be a lot of times where I'm left scratching my head about it

Coming at this problem (probably of my own making) as a WHM by the way - what can I do to improve?

[Mazi]

Well certain moves if it targets you specifically you won't be able to dodge, like the green dragon in Brayflox when he targets you with that spit even if you move it still hits you so you might be dealing with some of those.

[Syfin]

You need to move instantg. Due to latency the marker appears before you actually see it and disappears before it disappears on your screen.

[LeoGreenwood]

It's a bug, I still get hit even when I'm out of the aoes circles/beams :

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...aving-red-zone


This is nasty, people get mad at me in dungeons, I don't want to go into dungeons anymore T_T

[Ryuni]

I think the main issue with red circles isn't lag, but the way they work.

Most people don't seem to realize that what counts is your position the moment the cast bar is finished, not when the attack is executed.
Let's say you spot a red circle, start running out of it, but the moment the enemy finished his cast bar, you were still slightly inside the red circle. Not paying attention to this you proceed to run out of the red circle and run quite a bit away from where it was spotted and then suddenly you get hit by the enemy attack.
So unless you're completely out of the red circle when the cast bar is finished, you are going to get hit regardless if you were on the other side of the map. Just remember there is always latency to take into account as well, if you feel like you just BARELY were outside the red circle when the cast bar finished, you could have pretty much been INSIDE the red circle on the server because of the delay between your computer commands and the server.

[Zetonegi]

Coming at this problem (probably of my own making) as a WHM by the way - what can I do to improve?

The one thing you need to understand is the attack checks your position when the casting bar reaches 100%. It doesn't matter if the AoE marker lingers for a bit longer, if you're inside it when the game finishes casting, you're getting hit. The best way to help alleviate this is geometry, the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. Don't try to strafe out of the AoE or anything fancy like that, just run out. Unless you're doing emergency healing, cancel your spell. If you're fighting a boss who uses multiple AoEs at once, if you aren't positive you can get out of all of them, run so you only get hit by one of them, its better than almost getting out of and getting hit twice and dieing.

[KimimiAvesta]

Thank you for all the replies so far!

Ryuni - as a WHM that's almost looking at the party rather than targeting an enemy, where do I see the cast bar? It's something I've heard of but I'm not familiar with, sorry.

[Zetonegi]

Thank you for all the replies so far!

Ryuni - as a WHM that's almost looking at the party rather than targeting an enemy, where do I see the cast bar? It's something I've heard of but I'm not familiar with, sorry.

It'll be above the mob's health bar, you have to have it targeted to see the progress. Don't worry about it, that's more important if you're trying to stun or something. Knowing that the mob is almost done casting isn't going to help you run faster. But you can have a /ac "cure" <tt> macro to let you idle on the mob when you aren't capping off the DDs but that's another slot on your hotbar and something for you to get used to.

[KimimiAvesta]

It'll be above the mob's health bar, you have to have it targeted to see the progress. Don't worry about it, that's more important if you're trying to stun or something. Knowing that the mob is almost done casting isn't going to help you run faster. But you can have a /ac "cure" <tt> macro to let you idle on the mob when you aren't capping off the DDs but that's another slot on your hotbar and something for you to get used to.

I appreciate the suggestion, thank you!

[Ryuni]

Thank you for all the replies so far!

Ryuni - as a WHM that's almost looking at the party rather than targeting an enemy, where do I see the cast bar? It's something I've heard of but I'm not familiar with, sorry.

I'm not quite sure since I haven't tested, but I think focused targets get a cast bar as well. So if you set the boss/enemy as focused target (I think CTRL+F is default), then you get an extra little bar somewhere on your screen (depends on how you modified your UI), this might display a cast bar when they use spells so you don't have to switch targets when healing.