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  1. #71
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    Reika Shadowheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimahri View Post
    Again what I suggest to the devolopment team is to go over the Behest past Rank 20 spots like Camp Horizon. I just went to Nophica's Wells and the enemy levels were of all shapes and sizes. Rank 34 Wandering Wisp & Rubyscale Puks, Rank 39 Dark Devilet's with a Rank 34 pet Fire Elemental....Then a Rank 46 Ill-Tempered Puk as the final enemy.

    The reason why I'm asking them to go over this is because when coming from Camp Horizon enemies were well over Rank 34-36 while now you are 1 tier higher yet 2 ranks lower? Weird to me.

    Edit: If enemies at Camp Horizon are Rank 34 with bosses at Rank 36+, shouldn't the next tier (Example: Nophica's Wells) have enemies at rank 46 with bosses at Rank 48+ and so on and so forth? I love Behests. It allows me to still gain SP while working on work/school/house. It's a great thing for people like me with limited play time and grants us a form of leisure and stress free grinding.
    I put this in a bug report, but they moved it to discussion..... and even made a suggestion to fix that problem earlier in this post.
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  2. #72
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    Well another suggestion that I agree with is that they need to make this a capped Behest. For instance Camp Horizon only available to 18-28 or whatever. (That was just an example) I've seen so many countless Jackwagons coming into Nanaway Mines and such as Rank 10 Marauder or Rank 14 Lancer.....I mean that's just stupid.
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  3. #73
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    Zavier Mhigo
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    we need r50 camps :/
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  4. #74
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    Jinko Jinko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimahri View Post
    Again what I suggest to the devolopment team is to go over the Behest past Rank 20 spots like Camp Horizon. I just went to Nophica's Wells and the enemy levels were of all shapes and sizes. Rank 34 Wandering Wisp & Rubyscale Puks, Rank 39 Dark Devilet's with a Rank 34 pet Fire Elemental....Then a Rank 46 Ill-Tempered Puk as the final enemy.

    The reason why I'm asking them to go over this is because when coming from Camp Horizon enemies were well over Rank 34-36 while now you are 1 tier higher yet 2 ranks lower? Weird to me.

    Edit: If enemies at Camp Horizon are Rank 34 with bosses at Rank 36+, shouldn't the next tier (Example: Nophica's Wells) have enemies at rank 46 with bosses at Rank 48+ and so on and so forth? I love Behests. It allows me to still gain SP while working on work/school/house. It's a great thing for people like me with limited play time and grants us a form of leisure and stress free grinding.
    Agree it would make sense that the mobs range from 40-50 in a nophica behest. (10 levels above the camp range), I suppose they could hit the happy median and go with 45 for all monsters.

    As I said previously though 2 behest difficulties per camp would work really well here, option 1 would have monsters 40-45 and option 2 monsters 45-50.
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  5. #75
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    Leelya Seraphs
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    I love best. I would like more behest as it reminds me a lot like the old Expeditionary Force system, but I think the numbers should be increased for how many players are allowed.

    I think some of us need to be patient in regards to rank 50 camps because creating a gaming eco-system that allows for growth and not hitting a ceiling every other week would be preferred.
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  6. #76
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    5 level rule needs to be enforced once you start doing Horizon "tier" of Behest depending on the camp you go.

    There is no reason why rank 24+ players should be allowed in a Horizon Behest.
    There is no reason why rank 33+ players should be allowed in Nawana Mines Behest.
    There is no reason why rank 45+ players should be allowed in BW Behest.

    There needs to be a rank 50 camp open for level 45+ players, Mob levels should be adjusted to fit the 5 level rule if need be.

    If you're 'that guy, or girl' joining Behest @ Camp Horizon level 24+ you're ruining everyones sp for no reason, please move to the next spot, I've seen rank 28's and 29's joining Behest @ Camp Horizon, ridiculous imo.
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  7. #77
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    Velhart Aurion
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    My take on it, it is a wonderful way to get some EXP is you are lacking leves. It provides a lot of experience assuming you are in it's level range, and it isn't overall difficult, even when solo'ing.

    The one thing I would probably change is how Behest is distributed. I am always disappointed to see when I run all the way to a camp, see the NPC, and miss it at the last second, having to wait till he pops back up. I think what should happen rather if have an instanced like NPC who offers Behest to you and your party members. When you are done, the NPC's timer goes off for when you can do another Behest. People teleport place to place to do Behests, and it would give a refreshing feel to grinding EXP. Because lets face it, simple EXP grinding can be tedious, Behest timers would make it feel more interactive, and influence people to go into different regions.
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burn View Post
    5 level rule needs to be enforced once you start doing Horizon "tier" of Behest depending on the camp you go.

    There is no reason why rank 33+ players should be allowed in Nawana Mines Behest.
    actually you are wrong on that. since you only get the r40 leves at 33 does not mean the party you are in is all 33. they can not get the leves at that rank and i know myself and most others don't move until the entire group does. that's why i said a +4. if the party is 32-37 which is the 5 rank limit se wants us to use then the 37 has as much right in that area as anyone else. once the party all hits 33 most parties leave the r30 camps. i know my crew does this, but we continue running the r30 leves all the way up, but stop doing behests once our whole group gets out of the r33 range.
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  9. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burn View Post
    5 level rule needs to be enforced once you start doing Horizon "tier" of Behest depending on the camp you go.

    There is no reason why rank 24+ players should be allowed in a Horizon Behest.
    There is no reason why rank 33+ players should be allowed in Nawana Mines Behest.
    There is no reason why rank 45+ players should be allowed in BW Behest.

    There needs to be a rank 50 camp open for level 45+ players, Mob levels should be adjusted to fit the 5 level rule if need be.

    If you're 'that guy, or girl' joining Behest @ Camp Horizon level 24+ you're ruining everyones sp for no reason, please move to the next spot, I've seen rank 28's and 29's joining Behest @ Camp Horizon, ridiculous imo.
    That's exactly right. I went to Nanawa Mines as a Rank 25. In the group was some moron who used a Rank 10 Marauder just to get 600 SP (Which was basically all we got anyway in the end) then came back as a different class as a Rank 38 Pugilist and said I'M the one who was dragging SP down.......What a joke......

    DarkStarPoet there is a simple way that you can solve your problem. WAIT! Why don't you stop doing Behest with your party until you're all the exact same level? Just because you're 37(Maybe?) and your team-mates are 33(Maybe?) doesn't give you the right to butcher SP for the rest. Take some responsibility and either wait on others, or go to another Behest while your group stays at the other. I'm sorry, but there needs to be a limit on Behests so people can stop butchering it for others.
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  10. #80
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    Needless to say, having only 8 players able to "luckily" participate in a behest is....please excuse me if u will, RETARDED, especially when the behest wardens bugs out and reply you with "Cannot load" after clicking yes to participate. I play on prime times and thats the only time when I'm available to play, and most likely the camps are packed with 10-15 players spamming the warden. People shouldn't have to try their luck to get into behest parties. If they are there and wants to join then they DESERVE a spot. I hate it when I travel far, use up some of my anima to only find out the behest parties is full because I wasn't lucky enough to spam myself with a spot. The old behest system is by far much better, more convenient and friendly in every aspect I could think of. But obviously I don't think SE will revert back to the so-called-improved-behest system. Lets hope they understand how frustrating it is to get a behest spot especially I'm not the only player experiencing this.
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