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  1. #121
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    stop using myths from WoW as a "valid arguement". I played WoW before and after cross server stuff. Game never really changed. Most grouping happen in guilds people before and after think pugs are bad.
    And no one really talked in groups in WoW either way.
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    So after all, all the problem people mention on cross-server is just personality stuffs that can either happen or not depend on the person himself/herself.

    Why do you have to think for the other? if he is that kind of silly kid, then just let him show his true-self? just blacklist him no matter if he is from different server or not. or tell your friends of the name so that your server people who feel the same to you all boycott him or something? Bad rumor always goes fast anyway.

    But the main thing I want to say here is that each person just do best on himself is enough. There is no need for anyone to think of what other person will do...
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    I play largely solo, so few would benefit from a cross server LDF more than me, and I agree with Dreamer's points. It's not the not talking part that concerns me, it's just the flat-out rude, accountabilty part. There needs to be a way to blacklist someone across server, so that if he/she makes your blacklist, they will not be put in your pick-up group again. That way, someone who is rude could find themselves waiting for a group a very long time.
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    I did not read the whole thread, but I want to put my opinion out there, because up until now I was fairly happy with where FF14 was looking forward to the future. I think it is a huge mistake to put in cross-server grouping, very big mistake. I played WoW and used the cross-server dungeon finder many times, it's not something I would want to see implemented here. It's almost a game breaker for me, maybe it is one. I might go so far as to say, if a cross-server grouping method appears in this game I will quit. It's that bad.

    The community on WoW sucked. A big reason for this is cross-server grouping, because why care what anyone thinks when you know the chances of you ever seeing that person again are slim going on none, and if you do see them again what does it matter you are not on the same server. So you run into people ninja'ing gear, treating other people like crap, ruining game time for everyone else. I've seen it a thousand times on WoW dungeons. Please SE do not implement this feature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jibe View Post
    I did not read the whole thread, but I want to put my opinion out there, because up until now I was fairly happy with where FF14 was looking forward to the future. I think it is a huge mistake to put in cross-server grouping, very big mistake. I played WoW and used the cross-server dungeon finder many times, it's not something I would want to see implemented here. It's almost a game breaker for me, maybe it is one. I might go so far as to say, if a cross-server grouping method appears in this game I will quit. It's that bad.

    The community on WoW sucked. A big reason for this is cross-server grouping, because why care what anyone thinks when you know the chances of you ever seeing that person again are slim going on none, and if you do see them again what does it matter you are not on the same server. So you run into people ninja'ing gear, treating other people like crap, ruining game time for everyone else. I've seen it a thousand times on WoW dungeons. Please SE do not implement this feature.
    This is how I felt with WoW as well.. what sucked was the fact that if you did like the person the odds of playing with them again are slim. how can you make friends with other people from other servers?.. there was no point in making friends, there was no communication it was "lets just get this done quick".

    I would hate to see this cross server thing happen because I feel that the community will be greatly damaged. Less communication, less friends, and harder TO make friends. Best place to make friends is from groups. Ive made friends on ffxiv from just grouping with random people for all sorts of things.

    A big thing for me in a MMO is not just leveling or completing a task quickly, but the ability to make friends and in joy time spent together doing these things.
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    Last edited by Car_Keys; 04-21-2011 at 11:39 PM.

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    Sounds like a bad idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dargoth_Draconia View Post
    Basically you are sitting in town, you hit a button sign up to do the dungeon and you get put into a queue time, when the group fills up (filled up by people from yours and other servers) you get ported to the dungeon. You run the dungeon with the group you got put in.
    Sounds pretty crappy. I don't want this.
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  8. #128
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    really guys I played WoW before the dungeon finder... it sucked before and after. Anyone can be a jerk, anyone can be nice. I made friends in either case. It is not that hard to stay in touch nor do you need to hang out with your friend all the time. I made tons of friends in ffxi, and i barely grouped with any of them. I just talked with them over LS chat (in ffxi).

    Really guys these reason you keep spouting are myths or false and can happen either way. Don't judge cross server parties based off WoW, game community was bad prior to dungeon finder. All it does and is intended to do is make for quick parties.
    pros of cross server grouping
    can do stuff anytime w/o relying on an LS sched you may not make nor want to do all ythe time
    fast party making in some cases.
    get more stuff done in less time.

    all in all more time for fun less time waiting beat out every con.

    And you can't seriously say you group and make friends in every party, or partied with the same people multiple times, maybe on occassion.
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  9. #129
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    And honestly how do you really judge people based of a one time meeting? What if they had a bad day? Or sometimes people take things to seriously.
    As i said
    cross server does not ruin communities.
    how ppl act on their server does, bad communities happen with or with out cross server groups. Aion community sucks and it don't have cross server stuff last I played. DCUO community sucks because ppl are elitist abd talk down on anyone who ques up for raids.

    want a good community? don't do that crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    really guys I played WoW before the dungeon finder... it sucked before and after. Anyone can be a jerk, anyone can be nice. I made friends in either case. It is not that hard to stay in touch nor do you need to hang out with your friend all the time. I made tons of friends in ffxi, and i barely grouped with any of them. I just talked with them over LS chat (in ffxi).

    Really guys these reason you keep spouting are myths or false and can happen either way. Don't judge cross server parties based off WoW, game community was bad prior to dungeon finder. All it does and is intended to do is make for quick parties.
    pros of cross server grouping
    can do stuff anytime w/o relying on an LS sched you may not make nor want to do all ythe time
    fast party making in some cases.
    get more stuff done in less time.

    all in all more time for fun less time waiting beat out every con.

    And you can't seriously say you group and make friends in every party, or partied with the same people multiple times, maybe on occassion.
    Kilta, I'm never against you myself, but I can imagine why people might be rude to you, before or after an LDF.

    People are right that cross server LDFs destroy a community feel, because if you have no ties with the community you are in, you have no reason to care. I really do think SE needs to consider this and address it before doing anything. I offered one small solution. But if you want to actually promote a community, you need to have community based activities that acually encourage people to meet each other and contribute. Which I think SE has been doing pretty well without pushing too hard.

    I came here partly because I wanted to be in a nice community. Just because I tend to solo, doesn't mean I don't want this to be a pleasant place to play.
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    Last edited by Chezen; 04-22-2011 at 12:25 AM.


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    Yoshi-P starts casting Sleepga IV on Yoshi-P.
    Yoshi-P is asleep.
    The Troll hits Yoshi-P for 9000 damage!
    Yoshi-P is no longer asleep!

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