Cross Bar IS NOT good!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Amsai]

First off id like to say Im a bit put out by everyone chiming in that crossbar is better and people that dont like it need to get over it or L2P. A few others have said this but if people want to use 1.0 controls and its implemented why do you give a @#%! So if people want to use it then by god let them.

Now I was vehemenently against the crossbar until recently. I am getting use to it somewhat. But in order to do so I had to switch to ranged or tanks only. I cant unlearn the past 10 years plus of ffxi style controller. Its the damn dpad! I cant use it and do positiinal combos with a class like Monk. Currently Im having fun with smn. Its ranged so it doesnt feel as hectic with positional combos or rushed to hit skills. So I use 3 crossbar rows all using only the main buttons. The dpad path leads to damnation :X

My suggestion is to offer more (shift) like functions so I can use less crossbar rows and only use main buttons. That and implement 1.0 controls

[Carzilla]

I wish we had the 1.0 bar back. Along with Ctrl & alt macros

/sad

[MarcusY1990]

envy PC player.

[illriginalized]

This thread is incomprehensibly stupid. There's already a setting to switch between the crossbar and your standard straight-line macro lines. This game and forums are getting plagued by idiocy more and more each day. Does no one even look at the system configurations? Just go straight to the forums and begin moaning. I mean, really.

I have no trouble at all cycling through my crossbar on a controller either. I CONFIGURED mine to work as a hybrid between holding L2/R2 or just tapping it to keep it held for me. When I want to change then I just simply let go, or tap the L2/R2 again to deactivate it, then hold R1 and press up/down/left/right, or triangle/circle/square/ex to switch to whatever bar I need. I don't mean to sound condescending, but all of it is there for you. You just need to look for it.

Do you even remember what the 1.0 bar looked like and how it functioned?

I'm trying to strictly use a controller.. It would be ridiculous to say the least, that I use a controller to move my character around and move the camera around and then hop onto the keyboard to fight mobs.

And using a keyboard/mouse sucks when it comes to moving your char + the camera simultaneously, specifically compared to a PS3 controller or a controller with joy sticks for that matter.

Derp.

Adding to the above, are you people even using the config options SE has given you? There are more than enough options for grouping, switching and filters in passive/active mode can be freely adjusted as well. You can even cycle through 4 filter presets (when enabled) via L1+OXロ△.

The rest is personal ability to remember which combination you mapped which skill and also coordination ability to know whether you are currently holding L2/R2 or not and keeping in mind what you are currently trying to do.

Personally, I got used to it pretty quickly and can now execute almost any skill without thinking/looking where it is on my crossbar. The system is working fine and is worlds ahead of having huge travelling distances between skills on the regular bars on 1.0

Because it's stupid to have abilities on your D-Pad when you have multiple targets? Or when you have other players to sustain?

It is silly to hold down R1 press up/down/left/right or O X Square Triangle and guess about 100 times until you are able to finally memorize one of eight sets of abilities.

[TitusAldin]

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stop whining like a lil baby and learn to adapt.. the cross bar is fluid, fast, easy to learn and perfectly viable for all situations

Access to 16 skills with 1 single index and thumb. A quick bump and I have 16 more in rotation.(half second later and I can access 8 pages to pre-load from).
Making this an amazing tool once mastered. I approached with caution. But I love this thing, I can see how people will fly through commands once muscle memory kicks in.
And its easy to learn with such a minimal amount of input.

^this, quoting for justice.

FFxi and FFxiv 1.0 way of using the controller was acceptable and viable because combat was slow and sluggish, you could afford to take 2 years to choose another skill ( exaggerating ). that control scheme wont wrk in ARR combat moves at a faster pace you'll be struggling to keep up.