I'm done!

[Ecconova]

Well Square Enix I have been a defender and patient of you and FFXIV however how much can a customer take. I do not need to list the issues, thousands of players know what they are. I am not angry just lost interest and tired of being frustrated. Good luck you will need it. To bad you potentially had a great game on your hands but the word is out. It is sad I am a legacy, pre-order, collector's edition player and I now regret my decisions. Blizzard will continue to get my business.

[Raiz_Cineris]

See ya when the issues ironed out!

[Ecconova]

See ya when the issues ironed out!

It is hard to believe they will ever get them ironed out. How long do we have to wait. I have been in dozens of mmos launches since 1996 with Meridian 59 and this is the worst. Good game but all these issues have tainted the game for thousands of patient players. With Wildstar and Elder Scrolls not far off SE had this moment to get it together and they dropped the ball.

[Baryonyx]

I lost interest in this post when all the questions ended in a period. How long will this continue. ... I mean ???

[Oliin]

It is hard to believe they will ever get them ironed out. How long do we have to wait. I have been in dozens of mmos launches since 1996 with Meridian 59 and this is the worst.

So you're saying you didn't play Anarchy Online then? Lordy that was a bad launch. Fun game in its time but horrible launch.

[Yuichi]

It is hard to believe they will ever get them ironed out. How long do we have to wait. I have been in dozens of mmos launches since 1996 with Meridian 59 and this is the worst. Good game but all these issues have tainted the game for thousands of patient players. With Wildstar and Elder Scrolls not far off SE had this moment to get it together and they dropped the ball.

Yeah just by you saying that I can not believe that you have been in "dozens of mmo launches." Your wonderful WOW that your running back to was 10x worst than this. Least in FF people actually get to play, in WOW server crashed and where down for hours making it unplayable first two weeks. Lets look at Vanguard as well, so much stuff was broken in that game, Age of Conan, I could go on but you get the picture. Your full of it saying you have been in dozen and calling this worst.

Does the launch suck? you bet
Is it the worst launch? Not even close

[Ecconova]

Yeah just by you saying that I can not believe that you have been in "dozens of mmo launches." Your wonderful WOW that your running back to was 10x worst than this. Least in FF people actually get to play, in WOW server crashed and where down for hours making it unplayable first two weeks. Lets look at Vanguard as well, so much stuff was broken in that game, Age of Conan, I could go on but you get the picture. Your full of it saying you have been in dozen and calling this worst.

Does the launch suck? you bet
Is it the worst launch? Not even close

I am not a WOW faboi, I have no special love for WOW ( a great mmo) it just happens to be the game I was playing when FFXIV came out. Get the picture? I was in everyone of the mentioned launches all had problems, none denied so many players of game play as this one for so long. We must also take into consideration that this is now 2013 not 2005 as with the launch of WOW. It is hard to believe companies like SE have not learned anything. A company like Trion with far less resources had a very smooth launch as did Turbine with LOTRO, SWTOR was a great launch, Secret World also had a smooth launch. Both GW and GW2 had great launches. Many recent launches went very smooth, that does not mean the game was great we are talking about the launch mechanics and access to the game at launch.

I have been in more launches then you have probably played mmos. Vanguard, WOW, EQ, EQ2, Asheron's Call, SWG, AOC, Anarchy online, CoH/CoV, DAOC, Defiance, Priston Tale, Silkroad, STO, Tera, Secret World, SWTOR, Free Realms, Rift, ROSE, Rappelz, RF Online, Neverwinter, LOTRO, GW, GW2, DDO, DC Universe, I am sure I left many more out. You see mmos are more then a hobby for me. I follow them, their companies, and the business of mmos. I go to E3, pax and have been lucky enough to go to the Tokyo Game Show. I teach computer art at a college with a game simulation program, I am in the art department not the game program, but two classes I teach are required by the game simulation students. That does not make me a game expert but it shows I follow mmos and have some knowledge of what I am talking about. By the way WOW is a wonderful game one of the best mmos ever created. You mention 3 rough mmos launches, I wonder if you were actually at all 3 launches I was, and more then that I wonder if you actually played or put any time into those mmos, I have.

[Nasheen]

It is hard to believe they will ever get them ironed out. How long do we have to wait. I have been in dozens of mmos launches since 1996 with Meridian 59 and this is the worst. Good game but all these issues have tainted the game for thousands of patient players. With Wildstar and Elder Scrolls not far off SE had this moment to get it together and they dropped the ball.

And yet you have forgotten about the many troubles your beloved WoW endured in its early days *shrug* Maintenance days meant that you couldn't play the entire day, and often couldn't play the next day either cause of problems. Wow had a very wonky crappy launch, and a lot of features weren't in the game either (like the battleground they came almost a year later). Yet it turned out okay for that game no?

People stop shouting, I'm not defending SE here, frankly i find it very annoying that i haven't been able to play since Sunday. Especially cause i got booted from the server when i finally found a group for a dungeon. But shouting and crying isn't gonna fix it. They already stated a fix on Wednesday (or rather Tuesday as it was Wednesday for Japan but i believe that later on Tuesday for Europe and early for America). We will see how they improve the game and its issues in the upcoming month, perhaps two months.

Edit: Not saying SE didn't drop the ball here. They could have started fixing earlier, and knowing from last time during (a few years ago) SE tends not to listen to the player base during beta's but rather when the problems hit a high point. But start up issues are nothing new to MMORPG's and the shouting of quitting while you most likely won't doesn't get my sympathy. Especially not when adding the line "blizzard is gonna get my money again". Why is there need to even add that there.

[Ecconova]

And yet you have forgotten about the many troubles your beloved WoW endured in its early days *shrug* Maintenance days meant that you couldn't play the entire day, and often couldn't play the next day either cause of problems. Wow had a very wonky crappy launch, and a lot of features weren't in the game either (like the battleground they came almost a year later). Yet it turned out okay for that game no?

People stop shouting, I'm not defending SE here, frankly i find it very annoying that i haven't been able to play since Sunday. Especially cause i got booted from the server when i finally found a group for a dungeon. But shouting and crying isn't gonna fix it. They already stated a fix on Wednesday (or rather Tuesday as it was Wednesday for Japan but i believe that later on Tuesday for Europe and early for America). We will see how they improve the game and its issues in the upcoming month, perhaps two months.

I am not shouting or crying. Read the entire thread and you will see why this interests me and should interest SE as well. Threads like this do serve a purpose they let SE know customers are unhappy and SE is in danger of losing them. That is the only way to voice customer dissatisfaction. I used the title "I'm done" knowing I would get flamed by some but I had hoped it would get people to take a look and voice their opinions on the launch. What always surprises me is how some people just take it and feel it is ok since this is an mmo. Time to hold mmo developers to a higher standard. If they are not ready, do not launch until they are. In 2012 MMO revenues topped 12 billion dollars! Did you know that? This is not an industry of a bunch of indie developers anymore it is huge business! It is time customers expect the industry to preform like they make 12 billion dollars a year since they do.

[Nasheen]

I am not shouting or crying. Read the entire thread and you will see why this interests me and should interest SE as well. Threads like this do serve a purpose they let SE know customers are unhappy and SE is in danger of losing them. That is the only way to voice customer dissatisfaction. I used the title "I'm done" knowing I would get flamed by some but I had hoped it would get people to take a look and voice their opinions on the launch. What always surprises me is how some people just take it and feel it is ok since this is an mmo. Time to hold mmo developers to a higher standard. If they are not ready, do not launch until they are. In 2012 MMO revenues topped 12 billion dollars! Did you know that? This is not an industry of a bunch of indie developers anymore it is huge business! It is time customers expect the industry to preform like they make 12 billion dollars a year since they do.

All fine and dandy but the last few days there been countless of these topics. If you wanted to open a normal discussion maybe you shouldn't go all about how you gonna quit and leave for another game. And not commenting about SE will never be able to fix it. It is understandable you are frustrated, so am i. Its understandable that you had enough with it. But do you really believe SE is gonna read all these topics? When they all say the same and where it mostly ends in people shouting they gonna quit. They will laugh at most of those people, knowing these people are bluffing anyway.

You also need to realize you can't prepare for just about everything with the launch of a MMO. Yes some companies managed to launch well because they took certain measures that pissed people off in another way. Like locking down the pre orders and abilities to make accounts for a while so only early buyers could play. But you (and me, and others) are guilty of letting the MMORPG developers get away with what they are doing now. You still pre order your game, still want to play from the start while you know more often then not it doesn't go very well. You can blame SE for it all but its a bigger problem. Just like the whole game industry atm is a big joke with many games coming out broken and hardly get repairs cause they can sell another version of CoD the year after anyway for full price.

What can you do?

- Don't pre order
- Don't play the first month (saves you a lot of frustration and if we all would do it they might wanna make sure the game runs smoothly during launch)

I just keep in mind that the first weeks are always bumpy. Sometimes they surprise me with a smooth launch (Rift) but if its crappy it just sucks but not something i didn't expect. In a month when the game is probably in a much better state i don't even think back of these days anymore and enjoy it every time i play it. WoW had a terrible start up as well yet i played till shortly after Cata. Maybe FF14 will have the same effect, a rough start but with the months getting better and better and adding tons of free stuff in patches making the game even more great to play and then in 8 years we laugh about the wonky start "remember how terrible it was during launch?".