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  1. #1
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    savant07's Avatar
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    Ashen Valanar
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 50

    Are black mages the current top dps class?

    With all their insanely high damage spells and procs, 500 damage fire and 800 fire 3, doesn't look like any class can come close.
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    Crescent_Dragoon's Avatar
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    Character
    Agrias Oaks'
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    They're definitely a popular class. In the Duty Finder, I'll se a good six or seven Black Mage for every Bard / Dragoon / Monk (which I've seen one of, a Company mate).
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    Faeldi Chantelune
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    BLM do high damage not high DPS (damage per sec).
    Big numbers ain't everything.

    BLM can be top dps IF there is a bard with requiem + the fight does not requires movement so that's almost never.
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    Seyon Masters
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    Other thread asking for top over all seems to say bard is top.

    Black mages I group with do exceptionally well compared to most, possibly just means its an easier rotation. Id say very likely top aoe. Killed severely by movement
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    Mountain Dew
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    BLM has the highest burst damage, they are however not the best overall damage dealers.
    Bards deal higher damage overall in fights and are constantly on top of damage meters at level 50.

    BLM has the big numbers but the thing is their spells takes time to cast, by the time they finish a spell, the bard could of used 2-4 of his to deal the same or if not more damage than that of the BLM.
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    Crescent Dusk
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 80
    BLM also get the best AoE DPS tools. Maybe bard can match the damage or surpass a bit, but the BM gets the luxury of both damaging and CC aoe.

    The BLM also get swiftcast for some nifty tricks. The BLM doesn't need to be buffed ; the bard just needs to be toned down a bit.
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    Mountain Dew
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    Tonberry
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Crescent_Dusk View Post
    BLM also get the best AoE DPS tools. Maybe bard can match the damage or surpass a bit, but the BM gets the luxury of both damaging and CC aoe.

    The BLM also get swiftcast for some nifty tricks. The BLM doesn't need to be buffed ; the bard just needs to be toned down a bit.
    The BLM also has the awesome ability to cause major lag spikes to surrounding players with their AoE potentials. =P
    Those AoEs are crazy!!!

    BLM does not need to be buffed at all, they are quite on par with the Bard, Bard would usually surpass the BLM in damage but only by a small amount, it does not really matter much.

    Bards do not need to be toned down imo, they do their job fine, which is to do constant DPS. They sacrifice having any CC ability in order to just deal damage.

    What needs a major change/looking at are Summoners, they are classed as a DPS class yet they do hardly any damage, they need to be buffed to be able to even trail behind the BLM and BRD.
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    Robin Ster
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 70
    They certainly do a ton of damage in a sort of sustained burst. But then you hit the mana regen phase.

    And then there's movement. Sure you get one swiftcast, but otherwise you're just scathing things.
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    Marisa Kirisame
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by Rbstr View Post
    They certainly do a ton of damage in a sort of sustained burst. But then you hit the mana regen phase.

    And then there's movement. Sure you get one swiftcast, but otherwise you're just scathing things.
    The responsiveness issue actually works in our favor in this case. I've found that I can have my spell cast at ~80%, move, and I will still cast. But yea - if i have to hard kite, like archer tanking, I don't have time to cast. On the upside I can swiftcast cure and I don't use TP so I can run
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  10. #10
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    Character
    Reika Shadowheart
    World
    Durandal
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 80
    BLM arent burst DPS.
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