Japanese dev posts today (April the 20th)

[Commat]

Very true. Especially if you were like one of the newer tanks, and all the people you were in the party with wanted to skip stright to the end just for their daily Justice Emblems while you needed lots of Triumphs, or they all raged at you not being in full T-10 heroic gear and not being able to walk through the dungeon blind folded and never lose agro and never get damaged.

Want to avoid this.

What you have described is not in any way a problem created by the dungeon finder tool(DFT).

Selfish, uncaring people will be around with or without a DFT.

Even though i spent my time in WoW with cutting edge gear/skills(lol) i never hassled new/under-geared players.

On the contrary, i always let new players learn encounters and was always supportive/helpful. I established a lighthearted, enjoyable tone early and runs with me were always a blast.

A DTF wont ever make me a dlck and i doubt that it has made anyone else.

[Abriael]

Good to know I'll be quitting this game ^-^

If I want to play an instant gratification FPS/D2 "RPG" I'll go play WOW or rift.

Careful of the door, might slap on your "hardcore" rear when it closes

Uh?

With instantiation it's really easy, Guild Wars being the prime example: from the point of view of the player there is only one server. Of course due to the mechanics of GW (limiting groups to 6 players I think), it doesn't really show the potential of this outside of the towns.

And that's why Guild Wars isn't even considered a full MMORPG. Excessive instantiation is the perfect way to make a MMORPG lose the first "M".

[Mikita]

They're also considering cross-server party functions, it seems, while the implementation may be difficult (i'd request confirmation on this one from someone else that can read japanese, it seems too extreme to be right lol)

I can confirm your translation.
Yes, he did say that they are considering cross-server parties for these instanced dungeons.

[Nipa]

And that's why Guild Wars isn't even considered a full MMORPG. Excessive instantiation is the perfect way to make a MMORPG lose the first "M".

Which doesn't change the technical point I was trying to make.

Also you try to say to DDO players they are not playing a MMO. I'm pretty sure they'll love it.

[Cendres]

I'm having a hard time getting around the fact that the original dev team DIDN'T have a delivery system ready in place for this game??? Retainers are cool and all but sometimes you want to send a love note to your sweetie from Limsa to Uldah you know? XD (or gil, presents, LS communication notes ect.....)

[Chezen]

What you have described is not in any way a problem created by the dungeon finder tool(DFT).

Selfish, uncaring people will be around with or without a DFT.

Even though i spent my time in WoW with cutting edge gear/skills(lol) i never hassled new/under-geared players.

On the contrary, i always let new players learn encounters and was always supportive/helpful. I established a lighthearted, enjoyable tone early and runs with me were always a blast.

A DTF wont ever make me a dlck and i doubt that it has made anyone else.

I don't think anyone actually argues that it creates bad attitudes, just gives it a place to fester.

I'm very glad to hear you're not like that.

[Rentahamster]

here's a quick summary of what the dev/rep team posted today on the Japanese forums.

Oh, nice post. I saw the post in the Japan forums about feedback so I went ahead and made one.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ehest-Feedback

[Commat]

I don't think anyone actually argues that it creates bad attitudes, just gives it a place to fester.

I'm very glad to hear you're not like that.

I feel like most people are, in fact, like me. They want to have fun playing a game and accomplishing goals with teammates. If a system like this turns people into something awful then i would have to conclude that they are, awful.

After playing MMO's for long enough everyone figures out that the only thing worth a damn are memories and screenshots. The people that Shlt on others to get loot or grind rep the fastest don't matter. They might quit, they might change or they can keeping going about it and waist their time and everyone else's.

I am only as good as the worst part of me and the same goes for everyone else. I'd rather have a system that tests the community then one that hides it.

[Mikita]

I feel like most people are, in fact, like me. They want to have fun playing a game and accomplishing goals with teammates. If a system like this turns people into something awful then i would have to conclude that they are, awful.

After playing MMO's for long enough everyone figures out that the only thing worth a damn are memories and screenshots. The people that Shlt on others to get loot or grind rep the fastest don't matter. They might quit, they might change or they can keeping going about it and waist their time and everyone else's.

I am only as good as the worst part of me and the same goes for everyone else. I'd rather have a system that tests the community then one that hides it.

This is one of the best messages I've read in a long time. Thank you for posting it!

[Abhorash]

So basically your doing a dungeon, and this happened in WoW a lot when I played, dude gets his little piece of gear or quest and dropped out, what does he care he probably wont ever see you again. I want to play with people on my server.