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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    Very true. Especially if you were like one of the newer tanks, and all the people you were in the party with wanted to skip stright to the end just for their daily Justice Emblems while you needed lots of Triumphs, or they all raged at you not being in full T-10 heroic gear and not being able to walk through the dungeon blind folded and never lose agro and never get damaged.

    Want to avoid this.
    What you have described is not in any way a problem created by the dungeon finder tool(DFT).

    Selfish, uncaring people will be around with or without a DFT.

    Even though i spent my time in WoW with cutting edge gear/skills(lol) i never hassled new/under-geared players.

    On the contrary, i always let new players learn encounters and was always supportive/helpful. I established a lighthearted, enjoyable tone early and runs with me were always a blast.

    A DTF wont ever make me a dlck and i doubt that it has made anyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commat View Post
    What you have described is not in any way a problem created by the dungeon finder tool(DFT).

    Selfish, uncaring people will be around with or without a DFT.

    Even though i spent my time in WoW with cutting edge gear/skills(lol) i never hassled new/under-geared players.

    On the contrary, i always let new players learn encounters and was always supportive/helpful. I established a lighthearted, enjoyable tone early and runs with me were always a blast.

    A DTF wont ever make me a dlck and i doubt that it has made anyone else.
    I don't think anyone actually argues that it creates bad attitudes, just gives it a place to fester.

    I'm very glad to hear you're not like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chezen View Post
    I don't think anyone actually argues that it creates bad attitudes, just gives it a place to fester.

    I'm very glad to hear you're not like that.
    I feel like most people are, in fact, like me. They want to have fun playing a game and accomplishing goals with teammates. If a system like this turns people into something awful then i would have to conclude that they are, awful.

    After playing MMO's for long enough everyone figures out that the only thing worth a damn are memories and screenshots. The people that Shlt on others to get loot or grind rep the fastest don't matter. They might quit, they might change or they can keeping going about it and waist their time and everyone else's.

    I am only as good as the worst part of me and the same goes for everyone else. I'd rather have a system that tests the community then one that hides it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commat View Post
    I feel like most people are, in fact, like me. They want to have fun playing a game and accomplishing goals with teammates. If a system like this turns people into something awful then i would have to conclude that they are, awful.

    After playing MMO's for long enough everyone figures out that the only thing worth a damn are memories and screenshots. The people that Shlt on others to get loot or grind rep the fastest don't matter. They might quit, they might change or they can keeping going about it and waist their time and everyone else's.

    I am only as good as the worst part of me and the same goes for everyone else. I'd rather have a system that tests the community then one that hides it.
    This is one of the best messages I've read in a long time. Thank you for posting it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commat View Post
    What you have described is not in any way a problem created by the dungeon finder tool(DFT).

    Selfish, uncaring people will be around with or without a DFT.

    Even though i spent my time in WoW with cutting edge gear/skills(lol) i never hassled new/under-geared players.

    On the contrary, i always let new players learn encounters and was always supportive/helpful. I established a lighthearted, enjoyable tone early and runs with me were always a blast.

    A DTF wont ever make me a dlck and i doubt that it has made anyone else.
    Well it is good you were like that, but you probably are lucky to not have been in the auto-parties with the nerd ragers or the people that need on everything or the people that leave after they got what they wanted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    Well it is good you were like that, but you probably are lucky to not have been in the auto-parties with the nerd ragers or the people that need on everything or the people that leave after they got what they wanted.
    It is not luck based at all. Most everyone i have ever met, in life or in games will respond to kindness with kindness.

    Developers cannot make a selfless community. I have to do it and you have to do it. We must be active in our excitement about playing with each other and also be patent or let go of people that wrong us.

    In the end, people wont skip out on me if i give them a reason not to. people wont nerd rage on me ever and people will share loot when i am around.

    Why? because i command it with good play, hugs, kisses and all my best wishes =)

    If in any game the problems you have described keep happening to you i would suggest reevaluating how you treat others.
    I am not saying you are a jerk or w/e.

    I just hear the same thing over and over with every game i play when i very rarely have these problems even with an exorbitant amount of play time. I almost always have a good time with DFT systems. I have an incredibly high success rate on my mains, on alts, it doesn't matter.

    Power of positive thinking people!
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