This is sad.

[Godshelp]

[Deleting]

[AyaneKiwara]

Back around the time I was working on my first title, we had some major issues crop up towards the end of development. It was just a small team of us. About 10 total. Only two programmers though, myself being one of them. Due to how many hours I had been pulling, and the sheer frustration, it about brought me to tears. I've said to several of my friends, during various tirades that the truth of the matter is likely that the developers have reached the point of tears due to how things have been going. This problem is exponentially worse than what I was facing at that time. I can't help but feel for them.


The venom that has been coming out of our community is shameful. I get the "we're the customer!" stuff, but being a customer does not, in any way, give anyone the right to lash out in such a fashion. Expressing your feelings is one thing, but personal attacks are down right juvenile, and as above, quite sad.

This isn't personal, its business. No matter how much you or anyone else may want people to stop complaining the simple fact is this: People have purchased a product and are unable to use that product. They can not play an alternative measure or under alternative means without going against exactly what SE has asked them not to do.(Which is asking the NA/EU server players to not play on the JP servers)

Except, there have been personal attacks.

Also, they didnt ask us to not use a different data center, to my knowledge. The info, found here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...he-LIVE-Letter

states "So let me make it clear that we're not separating the worlds by language. For those who want to play with players outside of their region, they will have the choice of selecting a world that's located in another region."


also, http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21691113 You can see the video there. There arent translations. You can likely find those somewhere, but here you are.

[d4rkie]

Apparently Yoshi-P even teared up on the stream they did today

Here, a screenshot of the stream.

[Johncue]

Here, a screenshot of the stream.

I don't consider myself a S.E. fanboy, but I really feel for this guy. I have played and enjoyed other Final Fantasy games. When I was able to log on to XIV ARR I really enjoyed the game. It was a bit frustrated at times, but I do believe they will eventually sort out all the problems. I'm glad I didn't over react to E.A. Issues. So I have two questions. Is there anyplace that has this speech video with an English translation (subtitles)? Why is it titled his "last" speech? I hope they mean last speech of the event. I have faith seeing how much Yoshi cares about the game. I bought C.E. and I will be subscribing.

[Abriael]

I don't consider myself a S.E. fanboy, but I really feel for this guy. I have played and enjoyed other Final Fantasy games. When I was able to log on to XIV ARR I really enjoyed the game. It was a bit frustrated at times, but I do believe they will eventually sort out all the problems. I'm glad I didn't over react to E.A. Issues. So I have two questions. Is there anyplace that has this speech video with an English translation (subtitles)? Why is it titled his "last" speech? I hope they mean last speech of the event. I have faith seeing how much Yoshi cares about the game. I bought C.E. and I will be subscribing.

I'm the one that titled it "final" speech, because it was the speech that ended the event Yoshi's not going anywhere, thank goodness.

Unfortunately I lack the time to subtitle it, and the skill to do justice to what Yoshida said. Hopefully others will be able to take up on that challenge. Maybe SE themselves. They should really provide a version of the speech for the western audience.

It's kind of sad how most of you keep telling people to "grow up" or whatever when you see someone with a different opinion, but really, if only world problems could be solved by tearing up a bit. When you go to Mcdonalds to eat a hamburger, do you wish to be told the entire history behind the blood and work that went into establishing mcdonalds and as a consequence not get your hamburger for 2+ days or would you just like to get your hamburger and get out?

This is a business, no matter how you spin it or whatever the bleeding heart yields, this product did not deliver what it was supposed to deliver, end of story. You cannot possibly blame people for lashing out on not getting their hamburger can you? Especially not if you were one of the lucky ones that got to actually play during early access.

No matter how you spin it, on how you attempt completely unfitting comparisons in order to prove a false point. This is not a hamburger. It's an en extremely more complex product that took three years to make.

We absolutely can blame people for lashing out in an extremely rude and borderline insane way for two days of problems, that compared to those three years and to the years this game will last are nothing.

Saying that "this product did not deliver what it was supposed to deliver" is downright shameful, as the quality of this game is extremely high. Judging it on two days of server problems is something you should be ashamed of yourself for.

[Johncue]

Abriael thanks for the quick response. I'll keep my eye out for this video with a translation. Well that's my third post for the day! Time to go play, see you in Eorzea!

[Areth]

Saying that "this product did not deliver what it was supposed to deliver" is downright shameful, as the quality of this game is extremely high. Judging it on two days of server problems is something you should be ashamed of yourself for.

Are you kidding me? Alright, replace the hamburger with a car. I should be ashamed of myself? Why, because I pre ordered a game so I could get to play early access which I didn't get to play? Correct me if I'm wrong but nowhere on the "PRE ORDER NOW!" banner(s) did it state that chances of you actually playing the early access were pretty low. False advertisement, baseless statements (from you), and nothing but "I'm sorry, thank you for your support." and I should be ashamed of myself? Please tell me you jest, otherwise this is just too gold. It is people like you who ruin the so called community, try to see the world with both eyes, friend.

If you don't care about being treated as a second rated citizen, if you don't care about lack of communication, if you don't care about genuine apologetic vibe from the developers, all you do in this situation is enable them for future misconduct. Next thing we know JP servers will receive content updates half a year prior to the rest of us.

[Abriael]

Are you kidding me? Alright, replace the hamburger with a car. I should be ashamed of myself? Why, because I pre ordered a game so I could get to play early access which I didn't get to play? Correct me if I'm wrong but nowhere on the "PRE ORDER NOW!" banner(s) did it state that chances of you actually playing the early access were pretty low. False advertisement, baseless statements (from you), and nothing but "I'm sorry, thank you for your support." and I should be ashamed of myself? Please tell me you jest, otherwise this is just too gold. It is people like you who ruin the so called community, try to see the world with both eyes, friend.

Yes, you should be ashamed of yourself. Early access is and was simply a perk, a bonus. As such is legally and formally not part of the product. You did not pay a dime for early access (as a preorder has the same price as a normal purchase), so your overdramatic reaction simply does not have legs to stand on.

You purchased the car, and they delivered it two days later because it had a problem, that has been fixed. Happens. Get over it.

MMORPGs are products that last years and provide a long time of entertainment. Reacting dramatically for a delay of two days is foolish, shameful, and should be frowned upon by every party involved.

[Black_Rose2012]

I actually agree with OP. I mean this poor guy is working his arse off for us and what do we get to show our appreciation? Complaint after complaint. Yes, I know we paid for it and no, I'm not saying to take the game how it is. No, I do agree some of you guys. We paid for this game and we do deserve a good product. The thing is that the game is complete and it's an amazing game, it's the servers that's the problem. They didn't think we were going to like this game, they didn't anticipate this many NA/ EU gamers and as such the servers started to act up. But I think all the negativity coming from our side of the server is really hurting their morale. I think if we show them a bit of support from us, it can make them feel that finishing this game for us is worth it. So if this makes me a "White Knight" for defending them, then I'm DAMNED proud to be one. Because I know that a bit of support can help them in the long run, because I think they need it...

EDIT:

I think we should flood the English Forum with GOOD threads, show the team how supportive we are of them. Also, if we do this, DO NOT answer or reply to any people who want to fight. Just keep posting good things!

[Black_Rose]

What's with people and the need to tell everyone they're ashamed of their Community based on the Rage that is currently going on.
Here are 2 facts
1. Every Gaming Community reacts the same.and if there is a smooth Start, there will Be something else to bitch about.
2. You don't have to read these boards if the mere sight of a bitch/hate/disappointed thread grinds you gears.

Either deal with it or do something Else with your free time, easy as that