Ok.. since we have to spam login because SE is too stupid to implement a GOOD and USEFUL queue system and afk booter... this unable to update the group NA/EU character list is getting in the way.. It's worthless to even play right now.. I'm going to be one of "THOSE GUYS" and stayed logged in from now on. Oh well, others do it.. can't beat them (Obviously majority of us can't) join 'em.