Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[ColdestHeaven]

Uhm, the paladin uses Shield Lob+Riot Blade+New skill - which seems kinda off considering that Riot Blade has no effect whatsoever when uncombo'd (like Vorpal). Unless they change anything, at least. I think it's possible that they didn't really make them use the abilities correctly for whatever reason.

Edit: Mibhas I love you for that gif.

[Dervy]

Just before we see "fuller thrust " as we're now calling it, you can see True & Vorpal thrust being used in the other camera angle, before zooming into the Dragoon doing the Vorpal Thrust step back and "fuller thrust".
Maybe they are just doing whatever, but if that really is another ability to combo off Vorpal Thrust... our "priority" is gonna be absolutely long as heck...

[Dervy]

"Fuller Thrust" looks like a variation of Lancet/Lancer being used by Freya in FFIX: https://youtu.be/VkEn7IqRhGo 00:04 mark

EDIT: HNNGGGG

[Jonnycbad]

They mentioned they would be expanding the combo system. Could mean adding combos to existing attacks we have no combos for:
Phlebotomize->Fuller Thrust
Feint->Fuller Thrust

Or alternate combos Impulse Drive->Disembowel->Fuller Thrust
^seems more likely to be an alternate for this combo perhaps, for short fights, it'll be like 350-400 potency or something, as opposed to 250 with DoT, making itnuseful for short fights?

That buff, maybe it'll be a version of FFXI's Spirit Surge to go along with Power Surge and Life Surge, maybe granting you a -15% reduction to GCD or allows your next GCD to not use a GCD which could mean fitting in an extra attack or so during BFB.

[Jonnycbad]

Buffs I can think of:
-Increased crit (unlikely due to LS/IR)
-Increased damage (unlikely due to HT/BFB/Disembowel)
-Reduction to GCD for duration
-Next Weaponskill doesn't have GCD
-Next Weapon skill doesn't cost TP
-Reduction to TP cost by 20-30% for duration (great for AoE?)
-Combo'd weapon skills do an extra 10% damage
-Doubles the duration if your next DoT skill.
-Doubles the damage of your next DoT skill but halves the duration.

If there's a debuff for fuller thrust, I guess it could be:
-Heavy
-Reduces attack power
-Reduces critical hit evasion(allowing anyone who swings to get a 5% crit bonus)
-Puts a debuff on the mob where everyone who attacks gains HP back, like DRG's life surge in 1.0 or DNC's Samba in ffxi.

[HulveinBlitz]

EDIT: HNNGGGG

Maybe its a party wide buff, that increase magic def for a duration? Since it looks dragon skin wrapping around the character. It could even be for damage done.

[Jonnycbad]

Wouldn't really fit DRG's theme, but maybe if they call it Spirit Surge and make it similar to Dragon Soul from FFT-> allows a move that would ordinarily reduce your HP to 0, instead it leaves you at 1 HP, 300s recast. Or...a stoneskin effect but only against magic, similar to FFXI's Rampart/Magic Barrier(physical damage goes through, but magic damage is absorbed by the stoneskin).

[Jonnycbad]

But since DRG isn't a tank and is a primarily single target DPS with high HP and decent cooldowns to reduce damage like KF and Elusive, I'd prefer abilities that put us a bit more on par with BRD. In all honesty, DRG should be a better dps than BRD, given that there's a higher risk being in melee range, so i would love if we got better dps abilities rather than a move that reduces an aoe slightly.

[ColdestHeaven]

inb4 SE is actually going to name the ability "Fuller Thrust" just because of this thread.

The buff does not really look like a party wide buff - more like a Surge. It kinda resembles a WAR buff (Berserk/Infuriate) because of the animation (not the blue visual effect).

If I had to make a guess, Fuller is going to be used in lieu of the first Full in the combo rotation.

So basically:

Ht IDC Ph TTF Ht TTT Ph IDC Ht TTF
and so on.

Of course, that is assuming Fuller is either a DoT of the same duration as Chaos or a debuff like Disembowel (again, same duration) and not something related to support like the side-effect INT down from the Monk's Dragon Kick. And that's just one skill...gosh, I just want to know what kind of skills we're gonna be having right now.

[Dervy]

They could also extend the duration of Heavy Thrust. We're getting "loads more abilities and traits", so much that apparently users with the X-Crossbar will be having problems.

Also, the blue Dragoon buff, as someone pointed out to me, looks like Freya's "Reis's Wind" from Final Fantasy IX, on top of Lancet looking like "Fuller Thrust".

Reis's Wind applies a Regen on all your party members. I wouldn't be surprised if we'll be receiving a ton of MP based support/utility skills.

In all honesty, DRG should be a better dps than BRD, given that there's a higher risk being in melee range

Uhm... Are we playing the same MMORPG? Because the Dragoon is already 150+ DPS higher than the Bard.